17 Year-old Entrepreneur looking for advice!

JaredEdelson

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Hi Guys!

I just joined technibble in hopes that I can get some feedback on my business practices in order to grow the business and have the best customer satisfaction.

I started my own computer consulting business 3 years ago. I am currently a junior in High School and usually work after school from 4-10pm (sometimes later!) doing remote work, phone support, emails, ect. basically running the business. I drive and can go on-site in the afternoons and on weekends.

I use to advertise on craigslist but the bogus calls about missing keyboard keys just weren't worth the time. My main source of new clients are from referrals. I have many small business clients as well as home users.

Since I am only 17 years old, I charge a mere $40 an hour for businesses and $35 an hour for personal work. In California, this is nothing compared to the other people charging $120 an hour!

Check out my website (in my signature).

Any advice, suggestions, comments would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
 
Jared, I think you should raise your rates...in my opinion it doesn't matter that you are 17...if you are able to do your job well and meet the customers needs, then charge closer to what others do. If you continue to build your business, it will be harder to raise your rates later on. It sure looks to me like you are a mature and capable person...so go for it!
 
Yes raise your rates now for new clients, you can grandfather in your old rate with the current clients.

I sent you a very important personal message Jared.
 
Hey! I am 17 too and I just got my business legally started! I agree, you need to raise your prices. I charge $35 per half hour plus a $1 per mile trip charge.
 
Ok 17.... 17!!!!!!! To think when i was 17 i was messed up and not even thinking about having my own business.. :(
 
$40/$35 an hour in Simi Valley?! Way too cheap. The web site is template but filled out very nice. Nice job!
 
Yes yet another vote for raise the rate. I would not force your current clients into new pricing graddually work them up but they can often be a big driving force for your business. Your customers who are happy with your service are more likely to drive new business to you. Having a competitive price helps but you don't want to be seen as the cheap fix you want to be the value fix.
 
First of all I just want to say, "Good for you". I know that sounds condescending but is not intended to be. At your age I was working at Blockbuster re-shelving movies and thinking about which ones I was going to take home that night. Working towards a thriving business at your age is commendable.

Now for the input.
* Raise your rates to about 75%-80% of your average competition rates. Don't stress about the guy charging $20 per hour since we all know they do not stick around that long. For your present clients as mentioned you can grandfather your old rates to them for a set time but to grow you need some wiggle income for extra marketing and other expenses.
* Craigslist can be a little annoying for advertising however you cannot beat free press. My suggestion would be to get in touch with a local youth entrepreneur organisation and see what they have in regards to getting your name out there.
* Unfortunately age is going to be your biggest downfall when it comes to keeping the big customers. In the medium to large business mindset, there is a unwritten rule that the older you are the more you know but the younger you are the more energy you have to get things done. At your age the people of that mindset will most likely give you call the first time around but unless you can prove yourself to them they may not call you a second time.


Best of luck and cheers to potentially having a 100% thriving business by graduation.
 
Welcome and WOW! Great job! Good for both of you doing this at 17!

Just like everyone else I think you should raise your rates to a more professional repair level. When you do so let your current clients know they keep the old rate. You'll get better customers and reach your goals much faster. If the other guy is worth $120 an hour why are you only worth $35?
It has nothing to do with your age. It has to do with your skill!

Your website looks great. Very simple to navigate with a clear price list!
 
I agree with the others don't under sell yourself. Raise your rates if your confident in your abilities. Also on your website you have this... "uploading files and images to websites, and ripping and burning audio and video files" If i was you i would remove the service of ripping audio and video files.
 
Get a bunch of long sleeve and short sleeve polo shirts and have your logo put on them. Then raise your rates. Always upsell, get the clients to pay you monthly for a set amount of hours every month. The break fix clients will have you running crazy. Work on the SEO of your site daily.
 
Ok Jared, I'm not going to give you the "raise your rates" speech.lol If it was me and I did decide to raise them, I would still keep them cheaper than the competition simply because you don't have a brick and mortar storefront and you are basically only doing this part time until you graduate. I'd slowly raise them until you are at a fair market price per hour by the time you are ready to go full time.

My advice is going to be directed towards your age issues. Before your write off anything I'm about to say, let me preface it with the fact that I'm 31 and started my first small business when I was 19 or 20. It was not tech related but actually a real estate company selling land and farms. I'm telling you all of this because I've been where you are.....young, hard working and business minded but being paid by people well over twice your age who will often come into the business relationship thinking you are "just a kid". I think the tech business will be a little more forgiving since most older people think all "kids" are computer experts. However, this advice is still applicable. Nothing I say is meant to be an insult, but instead encouraging, because I have been in a similar situation.

First off the advice of charging more isn't bad. Charging a rate that is closer to the going rate for computer repair service immediately makes you come across as a little more professional than "just some high school kid". It says to people "hey I know what computer repair costs and I'm in the business".

Dress nicely. I don't know where you are from or what the norm is there. I'm in a rural East Texas town, we aren't the big city. If I showed up slacks and/or had a tie on I'd get laughed at. So wear what is appropriate. For me that is starched jeans, boots, a nice belt and an ironed shirt tucked in. Polo golf type shirts in the summer, long sleeve button up in the winter. I think this is the first thing that will set you apart from other guys your age and make you appear more mature.

Courtesy, manners and politeness. Manners were drilled into me from the time I could talk and they have made me more successful than anything else. Yes ma'am, no sir, thank you, you are welcome. I know that might seem silly but even today I get comments on how nice and respectful I am. Again, this sets you apart.

Be on time. If you say you'll be there are 4 pm, be there are 3:58 pm. If you are going to be 5 minutes late, call ahead and let them know.

Be confident in what you do, admit it if you don't know something (but you'll find the answer) but do NOT be cocky or a now-it-all. No one likes this, it gets you no where.

If people ask where you learned everything you know about computers, did you take classes etc., tell them that you've spend hours reading and learning online and then actually applying the knowledge by getting experience working on computers. If it started as a hobby or you were the family/friend go-to guy for computer repair, tell them that. Tell them you started taking it serious and studying up. What this does is make your knowledge more valuable. You weren't just born with this knowledge and you don't know everything about repairing computers just because you "grew up with them." Some of those things might play a role in it, but you have to read TN, search Google, tinker, try things etc to find out how to fix certain things. You have to learn the in's and out's of all the MS operating systems, you don't just have that knowledge. My point in all that is, you have valuable knowledge that isn't always easy to come by. You aren't just digging a ditch with a shovel, you are using your brain to solve problems.

Be honest and be a man of your word. If you tell someone something do it. If you make a promise keep it. If there are unforeseeable circumstances, explain them, people would rather hear the truth that a silly lie/excuse.

Don't be afraid to ask for help or advice, especially business advice. Obviously, you've got that one covered!

Money management. Built up a business account with a large reserve. You never know when you might hit hard times and need to cash to squeak you by. You might have to buy some new office equipment or computer(s) at the spur of the moment. You need to be able to purchase computers/parts for customers and hold the invoice until they pay. Never buy anything on credit unless you can pay the bill when it's due. You can't afford the interest. Simply put, do NOT go into credit card debt. Period.

Pay your taxes. I hate it as much or more than anyone. I disagree with about 99% of what our federal government is doing right now. I'm not happy with the ridiculous spending no matter what party or person is in office. But trying to cheat the gov. is not a good idea. Fight for lower taxes and vote for people who at least promise to lower them, but don't try to skirt the system.

Keep good records (Quicken/Quickbooks) and hire a good accountant. You might not need one now, but when the time comes that you are running full time, I advise paying a professional to help you with your taxes. Some will disagree and that is ok. But either way, just make sure you don't take deductions you shouldn't and be sure you don't miss a single deduction that you can rightfully take.

Lastly, if someone treats you poorly because you are young, just smile, be nice and take their money. If they really treat you bad, kindly let them take their business somewhere else. However, deep down you have to kind of laugh because they came to you for help, they are paying for it and they are the ones who are embarrassed because someone half their age knows 10x as much as they do on the subject.

Sir, I respect you. We need more young people who are fulfilling the American Dream and working hard to make it in life. You aren't looking for a hand out but making your own way and willing to work hard to do it. Good for you Jared. I have a feeling you will go far in life. I'm a betting man but I only bet on things I think are a sure thing. If I could bet on you I would.
 
i too am 17, and run a business and work as a head tech at my current company! Congrats on the motivation and accomplishments, being that im at a marketing/web design firm. You dont want your site to be in entire flash, makes it less compatible with new medias such as the ipad, iphones etc. (yes, statistically people check websites from non flash enabled devices).
 
One thing I would add is to not over extend yourself. If you tell a client that you will be there at a certain time. Either make the date and be on-time or give them a phone call to let them know when you will be there.

I only have small business clients and all are on a retainer basis. I bill at the end of the month for a certain amount and then so much an hour over that. I guarantee them that I will give them so many hours for their retainer and I visit their offices just to show the flag so to speak. They swear by me and I have the keys to all of their offices and many times visit them on the weekends to make sure that all is well.
I also monitor their servers on-line via Hamachi/logmein to update their servers and make sure that they are backed up each evening via MOZY.
They all seem to treat me as a member of their staff as I know who has the gold makes the rules and in each office you will figure out who is the "power behind the throne"
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Rich
 
Thanks for all the great advice everyone!

I was wondering, how could I compare myself to GeekSquad in terms of pricing? I charge per the hour and it looks like they don't. Suggestions?

My website was just "refreshed" a bit and I was wondering what you all thought. Also, I am taking your advice and raising my rates!

Also, I am really looking to expanding my client base. I just started putting ads back on craigslist and am looking into advertising in the local newspaper. Any suggestions?

Thanks again everyone!
 
I wouldn't worry too much about GS. First off a side by side comparison mentioning any names of competitors will look distasteful. Secondly, since GS is so expensive, assuming you are within 20% of the average local non-big-box competition, most people will realize your pricing will convert to significantly less than GS. IMO, they will be more likely be thinking about the hours adding up, which you can tackle with a number of strategies, including gaining trust of efficiency and/or having additional hours cost less.
 
Don't stress about the guy charging $20 per hour since we all know they do not stick around that long.

You might want to start thinking about that because there is a guy which runs a business doing a $20 flat fee in my town and a lot of computer business are closing because of that. Ive lost a lot customers because of this as i can not compete with his rate. The current economy is causing this. Sure ive been around longer and have a huge list of clients and have excellent customer service. I just cant do it I've also tried a so called special at $39.99 with ads on the radio, google, bing, yahoo, email newsletters, fliers, post cards, yard signs, billboards it just cant touch it because hes doing the same thing! SO i think its time to realize they can and will start affecting your business! Go a head and deny it. Ive been dealing with this for 4 years now and i know it can have its effect especially with the current status with the economy!
 
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