WOW!! Expensive internet link, but they paid it!!

[knc]

Got called in to "FIX" a crappy wifi service in a private house, of a VERY wealthy person. The client thought that the wifi signal was too low and therefore had SLOW internet speeds.

Well we discovered the wifi coverage was adequate but the failure was their DSL link. They are in a fairly remote area on the Hudson river in NY and their DSL provider could only give them 1mb down and 256K up.

So we proposed a 4 T1's bonded, to get them 6x6 circuit.

The monthly cost is (ready??) $5,000 a month. Unfortunately we can only get a commission and not a residual from this but.. hey a signing commission is alright.

They signed the contract.. unbelievable..

However this person has to approve videos for a well known website and their social media (youtube) videos..so he NEEDS reliable and fast internet..

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

Odd....I did a high speed office network setup in that region (Garrison NY, across the river from West Point). Similar reason...guy kicked up a media company with some big wigs from big TV network names...doing similar things thus needing the bandwidth.

Some gorgeous country up there...I really enjoyed the trip.

 

[NYJimbo]

So we proposed a 4 T1's bonded, to get them 6x6 circuit.
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Are they going to get a true 6mb ? Some T1 bonding allows for a total of 6mb bandwidth but "per session" is limited to a single T1 speed.

 

[frederick]

Are they going to get a true 6mb ? Some T1 bonding allows for a total of 6mb bandwidth but "per session" is limited to a single T1 speed.

Agreed with this. I haven't done much T1 bonding, and I thought it was the same.

They could have ran fiber for the DSL, costly, but it would have opened up markets I bet for the provider. That's what CenturyCrap is doing out here, running fiber all over the place to open up the market a bit, though speeds are still at a snails pace compared to the cable internet.

 

[angry_geek]

I thought where I am is bad. We have a client with 3 x t1s, 2 bonded. Total bill = $900/month.

 

[NYJimbo]

I thought where I am is bad. We have a client with 3 x t1s, 2 bonded. Total bill = $900/month.

I remember in the mid 90's when I was first trying to get a T1 in my store they said they could only bring in ISDN so they offered to bond 2 64k channels. So they were charging something like 1 cent per minute per channel at 56k and then 1 cent per minute, per channel, "digital switchway" to get it to 64k per channel.

So it was 4 cents per minute for 128k service. Somehow I got a "deal" and it only cost me $1,450 a month for 128k "nailed up" service. WOW, what a deal.

We got the first real fiber T1 about a year later. 1.54mb for ONLY $1,500 a month !! I thought that was incredible.

 

[angry_geek]

I remember in the mid 90's when I was first trying to get a T1 in my store they said they could only bring in ISDN so they offered to bond 2 64k channels. So they were charging something like 1 cent per minute per channel at 56k and then 1 cent per minute, per channel, "digital switchway" to get it to 64k per channel.

So it was 4 cents per minute for 128k service. Somehow I got a "deal" and it only cost me $1,450 a month for 128k "nailed up" service. WOW, what a deal.

We got the first real fiber T1 about a year later. 1.54mb for ONLY $1,500 a month !! I thought that was incredible.

Ahhh. The old days. Lol. I'm paying $500/month now for 75 mb fiber.

 

[EnigmaTech]

spare a thought for those of use down under. Got a quote for a client for a bonded ADSL service (8/8). Guess how much? 19.6K per month! They also have 4 sites, needless to say stumping up that kind of cash is a pretty quick way to send any business to the wall, so they need to put up with their current slow connections!

 

[rsarceno]

Basic overhead on a T1 is 8k (frame) which is 32K for 4 T1's. A T1 operating 24 hrs can transfer 15.44GB at 100%. Additional packet loss, and low latency you probably have about 85 to 90% efficiency. So now your 13+ GB a day. Don't forget this also includes overhead for IP and TCP header.

I have a client (1000 nodes) where we bundle 7 T1's for data and 4 T1's for voice. Video conf is still lagging.

Similar setup 850 nodes using cable internet at 20MB (no problem). But they pay a hefty cost for trenching to get Surewest cable. But monthly is cheaper.

BTW, have you tried Earthlink T1? Last time I check is $250 a month (which includes Internet).

 

[altrenda]

Wow, I have several clients using broadband over copper, delivering 40 mbps symmetrical, and they thought the $1800 per month was excessive.

 

[knc]

Basic overhead on a T1 is 8k (frame) which is 32K for 4 T1's. A T1 operating 24 hrs can transfer 15.44GB at 100%. Additional packet loss, and low latency you probably have about 85 to 90% efficiency. So now your 13+ GB a day. Don't forget this also includes overhead for IP and TCP header.

I have a client (1000 nodes) where we bundle 7 T1's for data and 4 T1's for voice. Video conf is still lagging.

Similar setup 850 nodes using cable internet at 20MB (no problem). But they pay a hefty cost for trenching to get Surewest cable. But monthly is cheaper.

BTW, have you tried Earthlink T1? Last time I check is $250 a month (which includes Internet).

ok well.... this is for 1 person... lol

 

[knc]

Odd....I did a high speed office network setup in that region (Garrison NY, across the river from West Point). Similar reason...guy kicked up a media company with some big wigs from big TV network names...doing similar things thus needing the bandwidth.

Some gorgeous country up there...I really enjoyed the trip.

About 50 miles north of their!

 

[brandonkick]

Basic overhead on a T1 is 8k (frame) which is 32K for 4 T1's. A T1 operating 24 hrs can transfer 15.44GB at 100%. Additional packet loss, and low latency you probably have about 85 to 90% efficiency. So now your 13+ GB a day. Don't forget this also includes overhead for IP and TCP header.

I have a client (1000 nodes) where we bundle 7 T1's for data and 4 T1's for voice. Video conf is still lagging.

Similar setup 850 nodes using cable internet at 20MB (no problem). But they pay a hefty cost for trenching to get Surewest cable. But monthly is cheaper.

BTW, have you tried Earthlink T1? Last time I check is $250 a month (which includes Internet).

20MB or 20mB? 20 MB of bandwidth is just nuts for 99% of anyone.