Windows 8, anyone like?

[knc]

I really can't wrap my hands around windows 8, it just isn't familiar and / or intuitive. I personally think it is a HUGE mistake by Microsoft. Much of the reason users don't switch platforms is the usability and learning curve, and windows 8 WILL require a learning curve.

I can see a client buying a windows 8 machine, turning it on, sitting back, and saying WHAT?. I can control my business clients and keep them in Windows 7 as long as possible.

What are some of your thoughts??

 

[pc-quebec]

What are some of your thoughts??

We gone have more **** from customers, like if don't have enough. Just imagine you go deliver a new PC with Windows 8 to someone, after a quick demo the guy will ask for a PC with Windows 7. If you don't deliver the PC, get ready for a phone call. Better make sure to make the customer try it before sell him a PC with Windows 8

 

[gunslinger]

You know, its funny. The few people who will try to explain later in this thread that Win 8 is not that bad are the same ones who said that about Windows Vista...lol

Windows 8 is the single biggest mistake I have seen out of Microsoft. People will argue that was Win ME but I disagree, at least Win ME was somewhat usable to anyone who had used win 95 or 98. I actually used windows ME for a few months and Windows Vista for about a year. I used Windows 8 for about two hours and was sick of it. I try to open up the VM and play with it still just to be somewhat able to navigate should I ever see one in the wild, but its downright painful.

If its this bad for techs imagine how its going to be for the "average" person.

 

[thebige]

So far I find it clunky and very non-intuitive. Supporting Windows 8 is probably going to be tiresome. I have not tried it on a touch enabled device yet to really give Metro a fair shake. But on a desktop or a laptop without touch it is useless. I wish Microsoft would take a page from the Mac play book and have 2 OSes. One for touch and Windows 7. As it stands though I am hating having to learn this version. Very cumbersome.

 

[nlinecomputers]

You know, its funny. The few people who will try to explain later in this thread that Win 8 is not that bad are the same ones who said that about Windows Vista...lol

Frankly that is a lot of bull that lots of techs perpetuated. I put Vista on my machine as soon as I could. And except for one driver issue on a very old scanner I never had any real problems with it. It was more stable then Xp.

Most of the changes in the GUI were either eye candy or offered genuine improvements.

For all the supposed changes in Windows over the years none were very extensive. All the same elements in the GUI have remained. You had a start menu, the taskbar, My Computer, etc.

All that has changed with Windows 8. I think it has potential as a tablet OS but the dumbing down of the GUI over the entire spectrum of devices from phones, to tablets, to desktops and even servers is ridiculous. It is a mistake one that most customers will balk at. I expect to sell lots of copies of Windows 7 or to install lots of copies of Start8 from Stardock. Lord knows the first thing I will put on a Windows Server 2012 install will be Start8.

 

[gunslinger]

Frankly that is a lot of bull that lots of techs perpetuated. I put Vista on my machine as soon as I could. And except for one driver issue on a very old scanner I never had any real problems with it. It was more stable then Xp.

You are completely out of your f***in' mind....lol You wont find 5 techs on earth that would agree with a statement that stupid. Maybe you didn't have a lot of issues with it but MOST techs certainly did. To this day most decent techs will try to wipe Vista machines for XP, Linux or Win 7.

 

[PCX]

You are completely out of your f***in' mind....lol You wont find 5 techs on earth that would agree with a statement that stupid. Maybe you didn't have a lot of issues with it but MOST techs certainly did. To this day most decent techs will try to wipe Vista machines for XP, Linux or Win 7.

I do not completely agree with you. While Vista was pretty bad when it first came out, its fairly solid now and does pretty much everything that most people need it to do. I would NEVER suggest installing XP over Vista and its pretty rare when I suggest that a Windows 7 upgrade would be worth doing.

 

[nlinecomputers]

You are completely out of your f***in' mind....lol You wont find 5 techs on earth that would agree with a statement that stupid. Maybe you didn't have a lot of issues with it but MOST techs certainly did. To this day most decent techs will try to wipe Vista machines for XP, Linux or Win 7.

And when I press the techs for the actual issues they have had I get a lot of um, uh, uh.

There were things to dislike about Vista. UAC was annoying. Some items got changed for the sake of change. Many systems that were labeled as Vista ready were barely able to do so but that is a fault of Microsoft Marketing not of the OS itself. Xp had the same issues on launch. And as service packs were added Vista grew much more stable.

I'll put a Vista SP2 system against any Windows 7 SP1 system. Both will be rock stable.

 

[nlinecomputers]

If you wanted an unstable OS. Put Win ME on a machine. I could install Windows 98 on the same hardware as ME and 98 would be solid and ME would blue screen. And get slow. Damn memory leaks. ICK.

 

[NYJimbo]

You know, its funny. The few people who will try to explain later in this thread that Win 8 is not that bad are the same ones who said that about Windows Vista...lol

I disagree. I use Vista Home Premium on my desk computer all day, every day since Vista came out and its perfect for me. I only turned off some of the graphic junk and disabled UAC and thats pretty much it.

Windows 8 on the other hand looks very annoying, but I only played with preview on a friends machine so far.

 

[red12049]

You are completely out of your f***in' mind....lol You wont find 5 techs on earth that would agree with a statement that stupid. Maybe you didn't have a lot of issues with it but MOST techs certainly did. To this day most decent techs will try to wipe Vista machines for XP, Linux or Win 7.

Really? How many techs are there on earth? Have you polled them all? How many of them are "decent"? What is the definition of "decent" for the purpose of this discussion?

Hyperbole much?

Rick

 

[eric76]

I received a copy of Vista while I was in college - way before it came out in mass. I never had a problem it. My buddy, who is also a tech, still has his copy of Vista on his computer.

 

[gunslinger]

Really? How many techs are there on earth? Have you polled them all? How many of them are "decent"? What is the definition of "decent" for the purpose of this discussion?

Hyperbole much?

Rick

1.26 million techs
Yes I polled them all
184,351 were decent
They all showed up with clothes on for the poll. So "decent" also the ones from best buy were kicked out.

 

[red12049]

1.26 million techs
Yes I polled them all
184,351 were decent
They all showed up with clothes on for the poll. So "decent" also the ones from best buy were kicked out.

Laughing hard. Nice response.

 

[James_S]

The start screen takes some getting used to but overall I'm enjoying Windows 8, especially those insane startup/shutdown times on a SSD. I'm also loving the new task manager (much more useful), consolidated copy dialogs, lower memory usage, and some of the Metro apps are pretty cool (like the Newegg app).

There are definitely annoyances, some things take several more clicks to do than on Windows 7, but I'm liking 8.

I can see older customers having a hard time adapting though. Probably will be installing something to bring back the normal start menu for them.

 

[pc-quebec]

......... and some of the Metro apps are pretty cool (like the Newegg app)..

lol this NewEgg metro just sucks..... a crap this aplication , like all other metro crap, complete lost of time to find something at NewEgg this way.
For a tablet it may be usefull , but for a desktop...crap, it's a pain to scroll with a mouse

 

[James_S]

Yeah, after playing with the Newegg app more it is cumbersome trying to filter results, looks pretty though

 

[16k_zx81]

Ive been running MDSN version on my work and home machines since it came out.

Initially I hated the lack of start button but found out quickly I could

CTRL+ESC and just start typing the name of the app I want.

From there its no issue for me because thats how I use 7 and vista anyway. I always found it quicker to do this than to click and look through start menu.

I find the WIN+X shortcut menu very handy also

My experience so far is that it has only taken a couple of minor useage habit changes and its has been an easy transition.

I still dont use the new menu system as its designed, because I dont need to. But I guess its there for people who like that kind of thing?

One question though, has anyone found what to use instead of the STARTUP FOLDER? I had a quick google on the weekend but just got irrelevant results. There's a couple of apps I want to run on startup but havent quite nailed this down yet....

Jim

 

[HCHTech]

I was looking for that too. I think you can use task scheduler with a startup trigger. Also, I found this.

 

[FremontPC]

This should do the trick:

http://www.addictivetips.com/window...older-how-to-edit-startup-items-in-windows-8/