What version OS do you buy for 5 office PC's?

[vdub12]

No, it's not. Windows OEM versions are intended for distribution with a new computer, not upgrading existing computers unless it can be considered a new computer, like if the motherboard is changed.

Alot of information is on the Microsoft OEM Partner Center and Licensing and Packaging for Windows 7

It does not have to be a new computer. In fact according to the license agreement it just had to be sold with hardware. A new mouse is enough to make the license valid.

When it's used outside the scope of it's intent, when the installer doesn't understand the licensing that goes along with it or the other options available to ensure proper Windows licensing. As computer professionals that install Windows operating systems we have an obligation to know these things.

It's all about making sure the client's system is properly licensed. That's important, isn't it?

You know I have been doing this for a long time. believe it or not I have read the Microsoft OEM license and I have called them and asked. It sounds like as a computer professional you need to brush up.

 

[Alan22]

It does not have to be a new computer. In fact according to the license agreement it just had to be sold with hardware. A new mouse is enough to make the license valid.

You know I have been doing this for a long time. believe it or not I have read the Microsoft OEM license and I have called them and asked. It sounds like as a computer professional you need to brush up.

Here is a link to the OEM System Builder License that appears on Windows 7 OEM software. I think you need to re-read it and "brush up" It goes against everything you just said

I'm issuing a direct challenge to you to provide proof, from Microsoft, that anything I've said is wrong. I will then eat humble pie. I also challenge you to provide proof, from Microsoft, that says it is OK to use Windows OEM software to upgrade a Windows OS on an exisiting computer system w/o major hardware change like a motherboard replacement.

I've provided links to the Microsoft OEM Partner Center, Licensing and Packaging for Windows 7 and now a direct link to the OEM License Agreement. What can you provide? Provide direct proof. My fork is ready for that humble pie - second helpings too.

 

[basic]

Moot, moot, moot, moot.

 

[maclaptech]

Here is a link to the OEM System Builder License that appears on Windows 7 OEM software. I think you need to re-read it and "brush up" It goes against everything you just said

I'm issuing a direct challenge to you to provide proof, from Microsoft, that anything I've said is wrong. I will then eat humble pie. I also challenge you to provide proof, from Microsoft, that says it is OK to use Windows OEM software to upgrade a Windows OS on an exisiting computer system w/o major hardware change like a motherboard replacement.

I've provided links to the Microsoft OEM Partner Center, Licensing and Packaging for Windows 7 and now a direct link to the OEM License Agreement. What can you provide? Provide direct proof. My fork is ready for that humble pie - second helpings too.

LOL... Alan you just copied what I copied earlier. You just don't want to except the fact do you????

Why don't you read this article:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2087792,00.asp

 

[vdub12]

Here is a link to the OEM System Builder License that appears on Windows 7 OEM software. I think you need to re-read it and "brush up" It goes against everything you just said

I'm issuing a direct challenge to you to provide proof, from Microsoft, that anything I've said is wrong. I will then eat humble pie. I also challenge you to provide proof, from Microsoft, that says it is OK to use Windows OEM software to upgrade a Windows OS on an exisiting computer system w/o major hardware change like a motherboard replacement.

I've provided links to the Microsoft OEM Partner Center, Licensing and Packaging for Windows 7 and now a direct link to the OEM License Agreement. What can you provide? Provide direct proof. My fork is ready for that humble pie - second helpings too.

From the license agreement you just linked to.

Hardware. You must distribute each Hardware unit with either a Customer System, or another non-Microsoft computer hardware component.

This has been a loophole in the OEM system builder license for as long as I can remember. Better then that Microsoft leaves the definition of hardware component up to the system builder. This is why I can buy a copy of windows 7 OEM from newegg with a mouse.

 

[Vicenarian]

If for some reason you later need to reinstall the finished version of Windows 7 from scratch using the upgrade copy you bought, you'll first need to install and activate Windows XP or Vista.

This is different from Windows Vista's installation procedure. Vista would let you install an older Windows OS, skip activation, and then install with an upgrade version. You can no longer skip activation when installing Windows 7 via an upgrade disk.

In other words, it's all about activation. The Windows 7 upgrade disk will need to see a valid activation - and that can include an activated copy of the release candidate - before it will install the operating system.

just fyi everybody.................................

 

[Alan22]

LOL... Alan you just copied what I copied earlier. You just don't want to except the fact do you????

Why don't you read this article:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2087792,00.asp

Because it's not from Microsoft. A third party opinion doesn't matter. if it doesn't come from the manufacturer (Microsoft in this case) it doesn't mean a thing.

 

[Alan22]

Quote:
Hardware. You must distribute each Hardware unit with either a Customer System, or another non-Microsoft computer hardware component.

This has been a loophole in the OEM system builder license for as long as I can remember. Better then that Microsoft leaves the definition of hardware component up to the system builder. This is why I can buy a copy of windows 7 OEM from newegg with a mouse.

Your taking it out of context.

From the license agreement:
Section 1c. “Hardware” means the Microsoft hardware included in the Pack. A unit of Hardware includes any Software and end user documentation that may be included in the Pack.

What's being referred to in section 5c is the distribution of the physical media and associated documentation. It does not refer to using OEM software as a means to upgrade a Windows OS on an existing computer system, which is what this discussion is about.

Still waiting for your proofs on this It will be a long wait, because the proofs for your assertions do not exist. Prove me wrong. I'm salivating for that humble pie, but I think you will eat before I do. Nah, you will not back down from your opinions even though the proof does not exist.

Here's more proof from me. If you're a Microsoft partner this is a learning course on OEM licensing: https://training.partner.microsoft.com/plc/details.aspx?publisher=3&courseid=3487

 

[maclaptech]

Alan just admit you are wrong dude. Stop being so stubborn. We showed you all the proof you need from guys that probably been in business twice as long as you have. Give up already... you are wrong.... that is it...

You want to use the backward way of fixing things, that is your choice. I've been doing this for over 20 years and heard from hundreds of system builders who know the license inside out and 10 times better than you. You are hard headed and wasting everyone's time on here. We don't owe you anything and we don't have to prove anything to you . You don't want to accept the facts. that is all that there is to it.

This thread is closed as far as I'm concerned.... I'm done wasting my time on you....

 

[vdub12]

Your taking it out of context.

From the license agreement:
Section 1c. “Hardware” means the Microsoft hardware included in the Pack. A unit of Hardware includes any Software and end user documentation that may be included in the Pack.

What's being referred to in section 5c is the distribution of the physical media and associated documentation. It does not refer to using OEM software as a means to upgrade a Windows OS on an existing computer system, which is what this discussion is about.

Still waiting for your proofs on this It will be a long wait, because the proofs for your assertions do not exist. Prove me wrong. I'm salivating for that humble pie, but I think you will eat before I do. Nah, you will not back down from your opinions even though the proof does not exist.

Here's more proof from me. If you're a Microsoft partner this is a learning course on OEM licensing: https://training.partner.microsoft.com/plc/details.aspx?publisher=3&courseid=3487

You know what, do whatever you want. Your wrong but it does not mater.

I guess NewEgg is going to be sued by Microsoft for breaking the license agreement. Also all computer stores selling OEM copy's of windows will also get sued out of business and the only one left will be you. I guess your lucky in that regard.