What is the most important considerations for you when buying a CRM/Remote Software?

Bryce W

Administrator
Staff member
Reaction score
1,558
Location
Melbourne, Australia
Im looking at putting together some content for Technibble and I wanted to get an idea of what peoples most important considerations are when deciding on a CRM or Remote Support solution.
Some examples of what I mean are whether it has a mobile app, intergrates with Quickbooks, Self hosted or cloud etc etc..

What are your most important considerations when choosing a CRM? (mHelpDesk, RepairShopr, CommitCRM style)




What are your most important considerations when choosing remote support software? (Instant Housecall, Teamviewer, Logmein style)
 
Last edited:
1. Stability
2. Price
3. Quick learning curve.
4. Easy customizations (rebranding etc).
5. Support Community.
6. New features added often.
7. Mobile App
8. Integration with other programs I may own.

For a single tech working now from home. With a small amount of customers. Wanting something like even a single Screenconnect license is a tough cookie. $325 could be an entire week of profit for me, and it would be a long time before I saw a ROI. Then I get a year of updates, which is fine. What about security updates? In 2 years I could still use the software as is, but what if a security problem had arisen. Purchase or you are SOL.

When I started I was using pen a paper to track repairs. I invested in PCRT 2 years ago. I was extremely happy with it.
 
For a CRM/ticketing I need reports, my main thing is being able to create and report on block hours. I have tried a lot and so far Autotask it the only one I have found to do this well is Autotask.

I like having it in the cloud as I can check on things on my ipad when out and about. I would like their app to be faster and better but can't have everything.

For remote access I am not bothered if it is cloud or self hosted, I use screenconnect which I host. It offers good unattended access and new features are getting added all the time. The only gripe I have is getting past Norton for one off jobs.

The main things after these points are
Price
Support
new feature release time scales
do they listen to their community
 
***CRM
*Integration with Quickbooks
*Access from anywhere...important for us shops with more than 1x person, that work out in the road, may not come to the office for a day or three.
*Ability to keep logs/activities/work/hours "per client"...since we're SMB consultants, and not really "residential"...we keep logs "per client".

***Remote support tool..if you're just talking "remote support"...and not "RMM", I interpret this as a tool which you use to assist someone that calls you out of the blue. For quick random remote support sessions to non regular clients. What is important to us for that is, getting connected in the least amount of clients and least amount of verbal instructions over the phone as possible. No dealing with firewalls and port forwarding and wondering what their IP address is, all that stuff.

If you're talking about a full RMM suite...I'll have to answer that another time, that's a lengthy discussion and I have to head onsite now.
 
I have been using http://www.repairshopr.com/for some time now and it has always been easy to use and has helped me grow my business and keep everything organized.

The pricing is good for a small business

It lets me send invoices and customize them

Has a ticket system that makes sense and keeps the customer informed

plus many other features that help me on a day to day basis!
 
I have owned many different CRM/Ticketing/Invoicing systems over the past 27 years that I have been in business.

It seems that there isn't one system that is 100% right for my technology company.

One of the systems I actually spent $15k for that was supposed to do everything for my business with 10 employees. The demonstration was great and spent a lot of time looking at it. After the purchase the implementation was very painful and took many months to get up and running. It did handle all aspects of my business but ease of use and the steps involved to do anything took forever. The accounting portion of it was very corporate level and I found that I was spending a lot of my time doing accounting related instead of working on my business. After 1 year we dumped this software and went with a more basic software application that did about 60% of these function and then a second program that did the other 20% of what we really needed.

I have been using mHelpdesk now for 1 year and it has been really great for my business. No it doesn't do everything that I need in one program but does very well for quite a few of my needs. I also use Zoho CRM for the sales prospecting, marketing side of the business. Yes it would be better if the two of them where integrated so that I wouldnt have to double enter customer information between the two of them.

Important things when looking for a software application for your business.

1. Ease of Use
2. Quick Setup and Customization
3. Functionality and work flow
4. Support
4. Mobile access
5. Integration with other programs
6. Price
7. Software additions and upgrades

My best advise from my experience is to really demo the software you are looking for at least 30 days. Make sure to put it through the normal business processes that you currently do to see how well it will work for your business. Also look for any kind of training videos or tutorials from the software company that will help you better understand the software more quickly. Also test our their technical support to see how good they are at answering your questions and helping you with support.
 
What are your most important considerations when choosing a CRM? (mHelpDesk, RepairShopr, CommitCRM style)




What are your most important considerations when choosing remote support software? (Instant Housecall, Teamviewer, Logmein style)

This is not an easy question to answer, as every business has a unique aspect in that they will do things differently to another business, that does exactly the same thing.

I am reminded, and hopefully Bryce will appreciate this being an Aussie... Nigel Mansel was once asked how he won the Formula 1 World Championship. His answer was was honest: We didn't have the best car. We didn't have the best team, We didn't have the best driver. But we did have the best package.

In essence, the best CRM may not suit you because it does not fit with the other solutions that you have, eliminating it's superiority.

Recently, I have had to recreate my company. My brief was easy. I need everything to run and fit together, eliminating double data entry, whilst keeping every one of my systems up to date, and in sync with the other systems.

I do not have a repair shop, so the likes of mHelpDesk and RepairShopr did not fit my model. CommitCRM was the one I went for.

This in turn, fitted with my chosen financial package of QuickBooks. Anyone in the UK understands that the standard software in the UK is Sage. But Sage, although superior in it's functionality (IMO), is extremely difficult to communicate with other products. In this case, Quickbooks is superior, and the package therefore is superior.

Likewise, for my MSP platform, I was using N-Able. Again, a superior product to GFI that I chose (IMO). But by chossing GFI, which communicates with CommitCRM, which communicates with Quickbooks, and vice-versa. I believe that for my own company, I have the best solution.... For me.

For remote support, I have just started a trial of Instant Housecall (thanks Cory). GFI already includes Teamviewer, but Instant Housecall is for clients that do not have a maintenance contract with me, where I can just tell the client to go to my website, click on a button, and download the client. I need this bit to be easy for the client as well.

That's the bottom line. You need a suite of products that have interoperability and communication, that you understand and are proficient with, in order to help run a successful business. Whether that is mHelpDesk, RepairShopr, CommitCRM, Instant Housecall, Teamviewer or Logmein depends upon the business that it is going to be used in, and the personnel that are going to be using it.

Andy
 
1) CRM - Autotask - Quickbooks integration, ticketing, contracts, equipment tracking, and reporting.

2) Remote - Logmein and Logmein Rescue - Easy of use, get us connected with least amount of steps, remote reboot, file transfer, access mobile device, ability to allow end users to use the same for their own remote access solution.
 
This is not an easy question to answer, as every business has a unique aspect in that they will do things differently to another business, that does exactly the same thing.
Oh of course! I am mainly looking for common trends. Quickbooks integration seems to be one of them.
 
use Mhelpdesk, convenient for now. Might have to change up if my business changes more this year, but for now the do what I need.
Client information'
Job information
Invoicing
Monthly sales

That's all I need.

As for remote tools, I have two I use (as I'm a remote support company) InstantHousecall and Logmeinrescue. You need one to back up the other if you are dependent on remote calls for your day to day money. I recommend having 2 if you are remote only!
 
With the recent announcement of LMI free's fate, this is a very pertinent topic that I am very interested in. I'm also considering the idea of looking into a CRM soon as well. In fact, I was looking for a thread on CRMs when I found this one. ;-)

Here is what I'm looking for in a remote software (no particular order):
  • Price
  • Unattended access
  • Ease of starting session
  • Brandability/Customizability
  • Web access and/or mobile app access
  • Ability to control PC, Mac, iOS and Android devices

And for CRM:
  • Price
  • Intuitive/ease of use
  • Brandability/Customizability
  • Access (local only, web-based and/or mobile app)
  • Existing software integration (d7, PayPal, accounting, etc.)

As a part-time, one-man mobile tech, price is a huge deal for me. Business is picking up, but I can't afford to spend several hundred (or thousand) dollars a year for these things. The pricing structure for something like ScreenConnect and PC Repair Tracker appeal to me if they can do what I need. I am also paperless as much as possible by using my cellular-enabled tablet for customer forms and such while I'm onsite.

I'm VERY interested to hear what you come up with on this subject, Bryce. Please keep me posted!
 
Last edited:
Recently went through process of choosing remote software, and chose ScreenConnect based on:

1. Price
2. Perpetual license
3. Self-hosted
4. Relatively easy for first-time, call-in customers to use on client side

After about 3 months, have been happy, and have more than paid for software with remote support jobs.
 
As for remote tools, I have two I use (as I'm a remote support company) InstantHousecall and Logmeinrescue. You need one to back up the other if you are dependent on remote calls for your day to day money. I recommend having 2 if you are remote only!

I was just wondering about this...this seems like a good idea to me as well but I was just wondering about conflict and load, especially on older computers. Which do you recommend installing before the other? Have you had any problems?
 
I was just wondering about this...this seems like a good idea to me as well but I was just wondering about conflict and load, especially on older computers. Which do you recommend installing before the other? Have you had any problems?

They both are so different, but of course do the same work. As for loading times, I have seen IH install and get me in, like seriously fast compared to LMI. Computer age is not something I can comment on. I have both tools ready, so if one has an issue or I need to change, I can just connect with the other.

No serious issues with either, no program is perfect. I've had LMIR problems that I had to take up with their support team and it drove me nutso until fixed (about 2 years ago, their chat window would multiply and then stay on computers and another time it was ruining graphics for some odd reason)
 
I've been doing this for about 8 years and have long ago given up on finding a single product that does everything I need. I have been using Autotask for years and it's great for managed services, contracts, blocks, onsites and ongoing tickets for business clients. It integrates with QB and it's good for about 60% of what I do. But it SUCKS for repair shop. It's ticket-centric so to process a walk in for a tune-up you have to create the customer, create the ticket, add time to the ticket, post it, validate it, invoice it and send it to QB. 10 minutes later your ready to go.

So I got PCRT to manage shop workflow and it's been great. Paid once and it's mine (which is a nice feature as everything is recurring these days). I wrote my own QuickBooks connector for it so it integrates well.

An all-in-one package would be nice but to be honest I've got it running pretty smoothly with these 2 products I doubt I would switch. Especially because it would no doubt be another monthly charge.
 
Im looking at putting together some content for Technibble and I wanted to get an idea of what peoples most important considerations are when deciding on a CRM or Remote Support solution.

I will try and give you my opinions from both a single out of my home/van business or a shop owner with 4-5 stores and 22 employees.

First, the single most important factor to me is that it not be a cloud solution.

Second, Cost.

Third, very very very easy to learn/use (this means many ways to accomplish the same things and to be very customizable).

Fourth, integrates or at least exports to iif for Quickbooks as I and most people are not going to learn another acct program to accommodate some help desk.

I absolutely do not trust the cloud. I hate the idea of leasing or renting software. I do not trust vendors not to get me on there with low costs and jack them up out of control, knowing switching costs are too high and inconvenient. I prefer to pay a purchase price plus optional training or maintenance and then upgrade when it improves enough that I wish to spend another wad of cash. For me this is absolutely a line in the sand.

Some examples of what I mean are whether it has a mobile app, intergrates with Quickbooks, Self hosted or cloud etc etc..

What are your most important considerations when choosing a CRM? (mHelpDesk, RepairShopr, CommitCRM style)

Not to brag about a similar product but if I tell you what I love about my system maybe you can see what is important to me.

First cost. Usually under $199 for single user and easily upgradeable to 5 users.

I selected QB's because it has plenty of "how too books", support, everyone knows it, easy to learn, easy to train so I knew it wouldn't become an expensive boat anchor.

Specifically I love that I can change a mistake without reversing entries. It is intuitive in that every entry is designed with the task at hand in mind. It is fast with autofill. I can drill down from reports to transactions/invoices. Things like dates can be changed with +/- keys when entering a lot of transactions historically. Completely customizable work orders, estimates, invoices, reports.

I like how they setup the front page. I think they call it home center or company center which has a diagram of how information flows through the software from estimates-invoices-sales orders and purchases and flow through to cash receipts, accts receivable, bank deposits...... It is easy for non accountants to learn bit by bit.


I have long considered having my own service software and the components it would have eventually included are:

1a. It would integrate with phone system to track incoming phone calls (phone numbers) so I could compare our closing ratio of call ins vs show ups or those who eventually become customers. If it is an existing recognized phone number then it would bring up their Name, account, last transaction automatically (with photo possibly).

1b. If not a recognizable customer then bring up a new customer check in which is Easy fast check in (add customers on the fly) which asked all the right questions (assume the guy taking initial phone call or checking it in and working on it are three different people. customizable information requests such as What are the symptoms? Slow, BSOD, Doesn't power on, Doesn't charge....

1c. Since it automatically identifies phone numbers and brings up either a customer acct or new customer entry it would be easy to label each phone number into telemarketer or robo call so future calls can be disposed of with minimal effort.

2. obvious stuff like date in and date promised or date time of promised phone call or followups. Customize invoices of check in receipts with boiler plate type stuff such as "we are not responsible for lost data" or "your computer will be considered abandoned if no contact is made for 14 days"

3. overall management/admin: I would want presentation reports to my screen that allows me to see all the equipment/jobs/appointments in the shop overall as well as in each que by category: checked in/Waiting; diagnosed; on bench; waiting on parts/resources; sent out for repair; available for pickup; shipped/delivered; paid; thank you card follow up invoice closed.

4. I would want this report to be able to also show by store or by technician or consultant. I'd want to be able to track if the employees are taking them in order such as "First in first out" or are they cherry picking the good jobs leaving some jobs in the que longer than necessary?

5. I want to be able to see the time each job/work order is in each category que or in our shop. I should be able to customize the look so that I could make the report present in Green if average turn around time within 8 hrs, Yellow if within 24 hrs, orange if 36 hrs they should turn red after 36 hrs unless waiting for parts.

6. Exceptions reports: for example if I wanted to see all jobs that went into red or stayed in our shop too long so I could make management decisions to reduce the slow turn around. Maybe I should carry different power supplies or more video cards or ram, or more hard drives or notebook HDs...

7. The manager or admin should be able to logon on remotely to see this stuff for each store and/or it should have a web page presentation that can also be setup for customers to see their own equipment and where it is in the que (not necessarily anyone else s information). When busy it is a PITA to answer the phones to tell customers where their computer is at. Having a web page we can email to them with their own logon and temporary password would not only reduce time required to ask many questions but it would also make the customer feel more committed to us as part of our team.

What are your most important considerations when choosing remote support software? (Instant Housecall, Teamviewer, Logmein style)

We bought a package that we host on our server. It uses java or flash and it cost us one time $200 for 2 users. It is simple to install, host and manage, easy for customers to logon, branded in our name on our website.
 
Last edited:
systems

For POS system:

Ease of use would be number one. Can the receptionist and all the techs use it with no extensive training. Extensive training to me denotes software that is overly complicated. It's great to find a product that you can basically start using with some common sense.

Price would be up there as well. Although price isn't everything, nowadays in this economy its a big issue. The software MUST be affordable.

Right now we use mHelpdesk because: With their new pricing structure its not that bad as far as cost vs the competition.
Very easy to use and understand. Figuring things out is more of an intuitive thing for the most part.
They also answer their phone or at least return your phone call. That's a LOT more than I can say for other software companies!

For remote software we use ScreenConnect. We just switched from Instant Housecall to SC a few months ago. IHC was great but just a little too pricey for us. They did offer us a deal to remain with them but it still wasn't as good a deal as going to SC. The price to own it and the cheap price for support and upgrades made it a no brainer for us. The hosted vs non hosted wasn't a big issue as we are a recycle center and get tons of systems in that we can use. We hooked up an old eMachines just for this purpose. Its win7, runs good and does a great job for running SC. Support for them has been super! To be fair support for IHC was good also. I really liked them both but the price difference is what did it for us. We initially got the 'black Friday' 1/2 off deal for IHC but after the year rolled around it was only for new customers only so the price went up quite a bit. I think if you can host your own box and price is a big concern then SC is great! If you can't deal with hosting on your own box then IHC is a great product. I would have no problems using either one.

Also don't forget ACRBO which offers discounts on both of those products which save more than the ACRBO membership costs. They have been great and if you have a tech business then being a member is a must due to the savings alone.
 
Last edited:
A HUGE thanks to everyone who has shared their input on this topic so far.
As mentioned before, I am working on some content comparing the services and I want to make sure I compare them based on what actually matters to computer technicians.
 
Back
Top