Staying at home now?

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Think of the savings to be made from all this?
No lease payments on an office, no electricity bills, insurance on a building/office etc etc
people are very comfortable working from home now as far as I can tell.
No travelling to/from work and the subsequent traffic snarls, no late for work?

What do others think?
 
I've been trying to convince businesses to let go of their pointless corporate edifice and the associated overhead to instead invest it into their people and their tech while increasing profit margins for years.

It's all gain, and almost no loss. The owners usually whine about people not being productive... my response is that you didn't give them incentive to be productive! The model works, but it's not as easy as just mailing out paychecks. And you have to be willing to fire people if they can't make the transition.

But yeah, huge benefits to be gained. But business owners are Boomers, and Boomers don't like tech, it's scary. So nothing changes...
 
When this is over since employers that have always been resistant to the work at home model have run out and set up the technology to do it it will be even more commonplace than ever before.
 
A related topic... but how many around here have kids? How many of them are doing school at home now?

Now... fast forward to the next school year... exactly how long do you think our kids are going to accept being stuck in the classroom again... when they got used to doing a week's worth of work in a day at home?
 
Other than worrying about job stability, my employees have enjoyed working from home. Myself? I love staying home, but working from home kind of ruins the serenity of my home.

how many around here have kids? How many of them are doing school at home now?

Now... fast forward to the next school year... exactly how long do you think our kids are going to accept being stuck in the classroom again... when they got used to doing a week's worth of work in a day at home?

Nobody's going to like the transition back to "normal," but my gut tells me that employers and schools are going to try to force it on everyone again. These systems make a ton of money and are dependent on people thinking they're getting value for their money. Just like Netflix disrupted the TV and movie industry, working and learning from home is going to disrupt the business and education systems.
 
Think of the savings to be made from all this?
No lease payments on an office, no electricity bills, insurance on a building/office etc etc
people are very comfortable working from home now as far as I can tell.
No travelling to/from work and the subsequent traffic snarls, no late for work?

What do others think?
That was how I set myself up 8 years ago. My workshop has a separate power meter so I have a monthly power bill. Otherwise every morning I walk to work about 80 metres and walk home again at night. The workshop is in another building on the property so I can keep it separate from the family and when I walk out of the workshop door at night the phone goes off and the work stops.
 
. . . when I walk out of the workshop door at night the phone goes off and the work stops.

And that's how it should be, whether working for oneself or in an office for someone else.

I mentioned something I call "the artificial need for speed" and heaven knows that's been cultivated, writ large, in IT. There are critical things, and those need immediate attention, but they are very few and far between. Almost everything can (and in my case, will) wait until tomorrow once business hours are over for the day. I'll occasionally send a text saying something like, "Let's get into the details tomorrow," but that's about it, when the issue is not, in my estimation, critical.

And I have trained clients that they had better be making critical versus non-critical assessments about a problem themselves. It's made my life, and theirs, too, much easier.

But, back to the original question, I do think we are going to see a marked shift in the numbers of people working from home, and professionals in particular. Many have been pushing for years to have telecommuting and been rebuffed, but it's going to be very difficult to say, "we can't do that," now since, by the time this is over, organizations will have been "doing that" for months.

I keep waiting for lower level IT folks to unionize, too, as heaven knows the attitude that "your life belongs to me, and if I need 80 hours per week from you because of my incompetence or artificial deadline setting, I'm going to get it!," has been old for decades now.
 
It takes me literally seconds to "walk to work." Its like 10 steps from the kitchen to my office.
My office is obviously a room in my home, but its a separate entity with power and internet connections for my office and home as well (dont ask lol ).

There's no feeling like working from the comfort of your own home.
 
Humans are social creatures. One can't negate the evolution of a few thousand generations very easily.

Both assertions are absolutely true. Whether work is a primary part of most people's social lives is very open to question. It certainly was never the major component of mine. Seeing people all the time was not anything near to equivalent of true social engagement. I got that through my out-of-work life.
 
I have a part-time gig as head of IT for the local arm of a very large international firm. We were thinking of moving into new, much larger offices next year. That's now off the table, not because of money but because they're gonna let everyone work from home a minimum of 2 days a week and up to 4, indefinitely. People are happier, more energetic and productivity hasn't changed.
 
I'm a Boomer - and we invented tech. ;)

Exceptions don't make rules, but that little schism has always driven me off the rails nuts. Because yeah... you did invent that... Boomers started the 2nd Industrial Revolution... but then they failed to understand it... Set government policies that worked against it... and worse, set fiscal policy that reinforced all its negative impacts... which has put the "west" in a tailspin into destruction.

And I could forgive all that, if the generation would learn and vote accordingly... but look at the decisions being made in both of our nations... that isn't happening. And the younger generation it too small to fix it.
 
Nope...still at the office, all of us.
Can't get the productivity we have at the office, our fiber connection, our software running quickly, all of us with big triple or quad monitors....plus laptops plus even another monitor on a laptop (yup..sometimes run 6x screens on my desk!)

Plus we can all yell to each other or walk over to someone to ponder stuff or gang bang an issue.

Keep the divorce rate down too by leaving the house for 10 hours.
 
My sister in law works for a local legal firm that specializes in family law...

She can tell you... whatever it is you're doing that's trying to keep the divorce rate down? yeah... it's NOT working! lol
 
Exceptions don't make rules, but that little schism has always driven me off the rails nuts. Because yeah... you did invent that... Boomers started the 2nd Industrial Revolution... but then they failed to understand it... Set government policies that worked against it... and worse, set fiscal policy that reinforced all its negative impacts... which has put the "west" in a tailspin into destruction.

And I could forgive all that, if the generation would learn and vote accordingly... but look at the decisions being made in both of our nations... that isn't happening. And the younger generation it too small to fix it.
Those are fair points and that's a very good reply! I'm kind of with @YeOldeStonecat on this one, though. I think things will very likely revert to 'normal' within a surprisingly short space of time once all this is over.
 
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