Kind of confused here, got in a win 7 pc with a 111 gb ssd and a traditional 1tb, he wants his user folders moved to the 1tb because his ssd is full, ok fine. I boot it up and it shows the ssd with only 10 gb free. His user files are only 11gb, windows 24gb, programs 7 gb, I can't find any other 60 gb even with hidden exposed, what am I missing here?
SSD with no space, why?
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BlackLabTechs
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Did you try opening up explorer and doing a file search on that drive for - *.* size:gigantic
I usually do this to find the largest culprits first.
I usually do this to find the largest culprits first.
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Not enough info. What's the drive model? Partioning? File system(s)? Now that I think about it I've never seen a 111GB SSD.
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Fire up a program like Windirstat and check to see if they are programs taking up some space that were previously uninstalled. I had one last month where Norton 360 had about 90 GB of old backups, I kid you not.
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Yep, any number of reasons why there is something hidden hogging the space.
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I've been a big fan of WinDirStat for years, but I'm going to recommend taking a look at WizTree - instead of traversing the directory tree which can leave you with missing areas if security is squirrely, WizTree just goes straight to the MFT which also means it's really fast.
Also, how old is the SSD? SSDs do "wear leveling" to keep the amount of use for the memory cells roughly consistent, and as cells reach their expected lifetime they get removed from the pool. I'm not sure exactly how that would present, but a loss of capacity would make sense once the reserved area is used up. If that's what's going on, backup backup backup because old drives sometimes have a failure mode of "brick" instead of "read-only."
Also, how old is the SSD? SSDs do "wear leveling" to keep the amount of use for the memory cells roughly consistent, and as cells reach their expected lifetime they get removed from the pool. I'm not sure exactly how that would present, but a loss of capacity would make sense once the reserved area is used up. If that's what's going on, backup backup backup because old drives sometimes have a failure mode of "brick" instead of "read-only."
I thought of that but disc mgmt shows the full 111 gb, no other partitions
I'm googling wiztree, thanks
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+1 for WizTree; used it for years. Have tried others, but keep coming back to WizTree.
Awesome program! thanks, found some 40 gb app hidden in the program data folder, got the ok to do a malware cleanup on this thing.Anybody heard of Hillcrest labs av server kiwi???
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Solarwinds has Kiwi Syslog Server. http://www.kiwisyslog.com/
Do you know the history of this laptop? Maybe it was/is used in some managed, corporate environment?
I called him about it, hes a day-trader, never heard of it, says his son probably installed some crap......we've heard the story
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Too late to check, as I upgraded my MB Air, but I seem to remember it did not report a size close to the 128gb. Seem to remember something over 110gb. I just checked the Air. I upgraded it to an as advertised 1tb SSD. It reports it's around 955gb installed which is around 5% loss. But that is still way less than the difference with what you see.
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On the Samsung 850 Pros we install in the 128 flavor show as 118 GB. So likely a 120 GB drive.
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Even though SSDs (at least good ones) come with a certain amount of extra space that's pre-allocated for wear leveling, I'm a fan of formatting them to leave a significant unformatted area. SSDs aren't like spinning metal disks where the partitions actually relate to specific reserved physical areas, so the unformatted space acts as extra area to speed up operations since wear leveling will write across that area as well.
A bit of reading around TRIM indicates that my handling may no longer be quite as important, but it still matters. While these articles are a bit dated, http://www.anandtech.com/show/2738/8 and http://anandtech.com/show/2829/8 are both very worth reading and understanding. Personally, I'm going to continue to ensure that SSDs I set up have at least 20% free/unallocated space.
And, I found a relative of the speed graphs that I remember from older SSD testing articles: http://techreport.com/review/27824/crucial-bx100-and-mx200-solid-state-drives-reviewed shows write performance depending on how full the drive is. The dropoffs there aren't where I remember seeing them in the past (I thought they were around 25% full and 75-80% full) but the magnitude is similar.
A bit of reading around TRIM indicates that my handling may no longer be quite as important, but it still matters. While these articles are a bit dated, http://www.anandtech.com/show/2738/8 and http://anandtech.com/show/2829/8 are both very worth reading and understanding. Personally, I'm going to continue to ensure that SSDs I set up have at least 20% free/unallocated space.
And, I found a relative of the speed graphs that I remember from older SSD testing articles: http://techreport.com/review/27824/crucial-bx100-and-mx200-solid-state-drives-reviewed shows write performance depending on how full the drive is. The dropoffs there aren't where I remember seeing them in the past (I thought they were around 25% full and 75-80% full) but the magnitude is similar.
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Agreed, WinDirStat just bothers my eyes.
At least you don't have this problem..... (chuckles)
(Maybe move to humor thread?)
http://imgur.com/GtCB9hK
(Maybe move to humor thread?)
http://imgur.com/GtCB9hK
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Space is always a problem with 120GB SSD's.
Reduce the maximum size of the hibernation file http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/pnppwr/powermgmt/HiberFootprint.docx
Turn System Restore down to minimum settings, or if they actively backup using an imaging program, turn it off.
Set IE to delete temp files on exit etc etc
Usually sets about 35GB free
Andy
Reduce the maximum size of the hibernation file http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/pnppwr/powermgmt/HiberFootprint.docx
Turn System Restore down to minimum settings, or if they actively backup using an imaging program, turn it off.
Set IE to delete temp files on exit etc etc
Usually sets about 35GB free
Andy
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