Sony cancels North Korea movie in apparent win for Pyongyang hackers

Laplandz said:
I'm English and live my life thinking "i'm in it for our species", with that in mind i consider what Sony did to be a very bad thing.
Sony spent $$lots$$ on this movie which directly targets the leader of a country, if this was a school yard, Sony are the bullies here!
I haven't heard about bombing theatres, i'd hope (and i sincerely mean hope) is purely propaganda talk by the bullies allies due to the stance taken (hacking) by the smaller kid.
This film should never have been made with the characters chosen, Sony should have made up a fictional country, with a fictional leader, but they didn't. Imagine if NK had the same budget and "prestige" and made a film about assassinating Obama, would that be OK? and would it taken as lightly as expected?

by stating any reason this film should be released for free is only fueling the fire and is exactly how the bully wants you to react. I'd imagine if you were north-korean you'd think very differently.
My "review" is Sony should apologise and admit they did wrong by this, because the nitty-gritty is, they were wrong to allow this film to be made without the explicit permission of the people it portrays. they knew exactly what they were doing and it has backed fired with the smaller kid retaliations hurting them.
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I find this a crazy argument. We live in a democracy and people and private companies can make comedy files about brutal dictators if they want. If there is a more legitimate target for satire than him, I don't know who it is. Hell, we have enough films and sketches taking the pi** out of presidents, prime ministers, religious leaders, pop stars etc etc. Are they to get "explicit permission" from all of these people? That's just censorship under a different name.

Any world leader who wasn't a paranoid nut-job and any country with any self respect would laugh it off. If someone wants to make a comedy about killing David Cameron they have my full blessing, as long as they don't actually kill him. And I guarantee that the USA would not be making threats and accusations of war etc if the boot was on the other foot.

You really want the satirists to apologise to a guy who brutally suppresses millions of people, and tortures and murders anyone who he feels is a threat to his continued rule just because he's the leader of a country?
 
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Why should Sony give away it's movie for free? The hacker has a total victory if they do that because they lose ALL of the revenue that the movie should have gained. Sony just needs to sit on this for 6 months and release the thing next Labor Day. By then everyone will have forgot this and likely the hacker will have been caught(being that it is probably an inside job.)
 
This is good for Sony demand will be up a 100 fold
but if its only released on DVD they wont sell many after it hits the torrent sites
 
So ronery is Sony!

nlinecomputers said:
Why should Sony give away it's movie for free? The hacker has a total victory if they do that because they lose ALL of the revenue that the movie should have gained. Sony just needs to sit on this for 6 months and release the thing next Labor Day. By then everyone will have forgot this and likely the hacker will have been caught(being that it is probably an inside job.)
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It was stupid of them to pull it, it will give these "hackers" even more to do it again.
I would think security would be upped and password would not be as later lol.
 
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They should do a free release for a very simple reason.

The entire intent was to prevent the movie from being seen, which they have now won. A free screening would have allowed a large segment of people to see it, opposite of the effect they wanted.

As for the threat of blowing up theaters.... I just didn't believe the threat had merit and ignored it. Even if it had merit, would you be "terrified" enough not to go to the theater?
 
If NK would have ignored the film then it would have just faded into history as just another movie. It would have been forgotten after the holidays.

I understand that now NK is having an issue with their internet connection. Seems its down for some reason. lol...

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coffee said:
If NK would have ignored the film then it would have just faded into history as just another movie. It would have been forgotten after the holidays.

I understand that now NK is having an issue with their internet connection. Seems its down for some reason. lol...

coffee
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I still think NK has nothing to do with this....
 
nlinecomputers said:
I still think NK has nothing to do with this....
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Would likely be hackers via China not Nth Korea. Whether these are Chinese or north Korean no-one will ever know. Its a bit of a stalemate, the software they used was basic. Whether someone can uncover the exact trace of the original deployment is another.
Hackers via china have already stolen military plans from the US before in previous years - the P-35, which they went onto develop and looks just like the US model from JANES.
Might not be via Nth Korea exactly, but operatives via Nth.Korea have been known to travel inside Chinese borders to do what they need to do.
China is a supporter of Nth.Korea. China is a powerhouse economic country so no sanctions.

There was no repercussion then [as far as I am aware] , "Oh ok, you can steal our military data..but from a private studio which is owned by Japan?" I sense something more from this intrusion.
 
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Moltuae said:
It was probably Russian's using a North Korean VPN, trying to stir up some sh1t.
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Russians are great with malware so maybe, its all a maybe at present. It is not an American resource or a Military establishment. That said seeing in Germany of recent where an Iron plant got taken over by hackers to take over system ops ; and the plant had to force down the system causing damage. This might be a heads up to sys ops in these corps and business. As how easy it might be to kill or disrupt a service or business without the safeguards in place. Sony wtf passwords folder with password, Germany - Iron plant having a network system available to be connected to the internet as well as a VPN with no safeguard to machines controllers?
 
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I may be alone with this one, but I dont believe NK actually had anything to do with it.

Sony is responsible for one of the worst breaches in history. The PlayStation Network hack back in 2011. Then they were hacked again in earlier this month, and of course the business one even more recently.

I think the NK accusations were to deflect blame away from Sony. "Oh.. it was the... umm... the NORTH KOREANS!! Yeah! Those are the bad guys!"
Without the "common bad guy", people would be looking at Sony saying "why cant you get your sh*t together?", but with the common bad guy, we're looking outwardly at the North Koreans.

Some people believe that Sony did it as a marketing stunt/insurance job. I dont know, its possible.

The North Koreans themselves denied any involvement, which you may or may not believe, but they basically said "It wasnt us, but expect much worse". It wasnt a sheepish denial "oops it wasnt us", it still contained a threat. So I actually believe them when they said it wasnt them.
 
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