SATA blues, SATA board doesn't recognize SATA drive?

[Airframer]

I'm stumped.
I'm selling a computer to a friend, and as part of the deal he wanted me to install a new SATA drive he purchased. The CMOS doesn't recognize the 1.5 TB seagate he purchased, nor the 120 GB maxtor I use for testing. (both jumpered to 1.5Gbps).
During install (retail xp pro sp1) I do the whole f6, insert disk, s, select driver rigamarole, and have tried skipping that as well. But before beginning the rest of the install I get this:

"Setup did not find any hard disk drives installed in your computer
Make sure any hard disk drives are powered on and properly connected to your computer, and that any disk-related hardware configuration is correct. this may involve running a manufacturer setup disk, etc, etc"

I have cleared CMOS (jumper and from boot disk), run seagate's utility from boot disk, tried different SATA port, tried known good RAM and PSU, and have uninstalled all hardware not related to getting this working. CMOS settings have SATA enabled, it just doesn't see either drive. Installs to IDE hdd work fine. Drive is getting power, as I can feel it working. Even though the mobo has an integrated SATA controller, do I need a BIOS flash?
System details:
BRAND SPANKIN NEW msi k8m neo-v, v1.4 BIOS
amd athlon 64 (newcastle) 3000+
2 sticks 1 GB kingston value RAM, DDR 333 (also tried Corsair 2x512 DDR400)
400w antec silent pwr PSU (also tried no-name 400w)
Seagate barracuda 1.5 TB SATA drive (jumpered to 1.5Gbps) (also tried maxtor 120 GB SATA)

Please help! I am completely stumped and bow before the greater combined experience of Technibble.com

 

[iptech]

Have you changed the SATA controller to IDE emulation via the BIOS?

 

[seedubya]

Have you tried a different cable?

 

[Airframer]

Ya'll are quick, wow

Forgot to mention, yes I have tried a total of 3 diff SATA cables

The only SATA settings available to me in the CMOS are:
On-Chip SATA-IDE controller -ENABLED
BootROM Function -ENABLED

Though it's enabled, It doesn't even see it. Not even listed on Boot Sequence option in CMOS

Thanks,
Jon

 

[iptech]

Make sure the RAID controller in BIOS is set to IDE mode and not RAID also.

 

[anonymous Mac Tech]

Did you try it without the jumper set?

 

[Airframer]

Unfortunately, There appear to be no raid functions available to me in CMOS. Nothing says RAID any where.
The only thing I can think of to do is BIOS flash or maybe I got a new mobo with a bad SATA controller (I've had good luck in the past with msi though)

 

[iptech]

I've just checked on MSI website and the latest BIOS code for the K8M Neo-V is 3.7 and that's dated August 16 2005!

Are you sure that's the right board number and that it's really new?

 

[14049752]

How about AHCI mode? Turn it to legacy or off.

 

[Airframer]

No AHCI mode here on this board. Though its new, its still an "old" socket 754.
the only options I can configure via CMOS related to SATA or RAID are:

On-Chip SATA-IDE controller -ENABLED
BootROM Function -ENABLED

The only "legacy" function I can enable has to do with USB support
Thanks for the quick replies folks

 

[hondablaster]

Obviously you know that SP1 does not naively support SATA.

None of these drivers worked. One of them is a floppy maker.

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=611

That hardware your using is old. How did you acquire a brand spanking new one.

 

[Airframer]

AnonymousMac:
Just tried it w/ no jumper (3.0 Gbps setting) and got same error
Also tried the mirror image of 1.5Gbps jumper setting incase Seagate misprinted the picture or I read it wrong. Same error

iptech:
Wow! Don't know what I was looking at when I gave that BIOS version. Just rechecked and it is indeed from AMI v3.7, dated correctly. So much for updating it. The board is "New", but old stock. Never been opened/used. Its hard finding a new 754 board nowadays, don't think they make 'em anymore.

 

[NYJimbo]

BRAND SPANKIN NEW msi k8m neo-v, v1.4 BIOS

Just wondering why you put such emphasis on a 4-5 year old motherboard ?.

 

[iptech]

Obviously you know that SP1 does not naively support SATA.

Yes it does, even if it didn't it would make chuff all difference to the disk not being seen by the BIOS.

 

[NYJimbo]

Its hard finding a new 754 board nowadays, don't think they make 'em anymore.

Right and they are incompatible with alot of new hardware. That mobo could not possibly work with 3.0 gb sata. Do you know if it can handle 1.5tb ?

 

[iptech]

Just wondering why you put such emphasis on a 4-5 year old motherboard ?.

True, I would bother with such an old board. The disks are probably SATA II and the board support is only for SATA I, although supposedly backwards compatible, with no BIOS updates in four years you'll be up against the march of progress.

I'd give it up as a bad job and ebay it or stick an IDE drive in TBH.

 

[Airframer]

The board selection was based off the cpu i have (previously in a mobo w/ no SATA support). The guy buying it wants SATA and some overclocking ability.

Couldn't find a 754 board on Newegg (too old I would assume), and purchased one from ebay. All factory packaging was sealed (mobo, supplied cables, driver cd/ floppy), and I emphasized NEW because it would eliminate suggestions that something on the mobo could have died over time (though I guess DOA is possible)

 

[Airframer]

NYJimbo:
Though I have jumpered the 1.5 TB drive to work at 1.5Gbps, I thought maybe it wouldn't support it, so I also tried an older 120 GB maxtor that only runs at 1.5 Gbps

 

[NYJimbo]

It's possible that the motherboard with its VIA southbridge is not seen because you are using XP Pro sp1 ?

I have seen many 8237 Via chipsets have issues with early versions of linux and freebsd. Its possible the Sata stuff on the board is not readable with win xp pro sp1.

 

[Airframer]

Thanks for the effort guys,
Guess if he wants it he'll have to return the sata drive and get an old fashioned IDE.
I appreciate it,
Jon