Moving to the cloud
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YeOldeStonecat
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I have taken "workgroups" to the cloud.
We're in the midst of planning migrations this year for some clients with on-prem servers. Notably...for quite a few clients with SBS which will hit EOS next Jan.
Going through some training for Teams, Sharepoint, Pilot, yeah the larger the client..esp with heavier on-prem stuff...the more complex this is.
For smaller clients with basic needs...it's easy. For clients with complex networks and heavier file usage...we're struggling.
A hard part is getting rid of 30+ years of "Mapped drives to the server" habits...at least if you're putting people up on O365 sharepoint/teams.
We need to get training on Microsoft 365 (not O365)....and "EMS"..and more Azure services to replicate some form of control via Azures directory.
For many clients we'll likely still maintain an on-prem server. Setup dirsync. Some clients have apps that need to live locally...on -prem. But at least we move their email to O365, and file storage to SP/Teams.
We may have some clients were SP/Teams may simply not work for them...due to complex file storage, or..they just don't have the time to re-organize their folder structure so that it can work in SP/Teams. Because...for a client with decades of bloated folder structure on the "shared drive"..ya know, folders within folders within folders within folders within folders (repeat a dozen more times)...that will_not_work with SP/Teams.
So when migrating to SP/Teams...you need to wipe the slate clean and spend a lot of time with the client to replicate a secure storage setup, permissions at the top level of sites/teams.
We do welcome suggestion from peeps here who have experience with other cloud file/storage services that allow mapped drives in a more conventional manner, with deep folder structure allowed...for those old legacy pain in the butt clients that HAVE to have things work like the old days.
We're in the midst of planning migrations this year for some clients with on-prem servers. Notably...for quite a few clients with SBS which will hit EOS next Jan.
Going through some training for Teams, Sharepoint, Pilot, yeah the larger the client..esp with heavier on-prem stuff...the more complex this is.
For smaller clients with basic needs...it's easy. For clients with complex networks and heavier file usage...we're struggling.
A hard part is getting rid of 30+ years of "Mapped drives to the server" habits...at least if you're putting people up on O365 sharepoint/teams.
We need to get training on Microsoft 365 (not O365)....and "EMS"..and more Azure services to replicate some form of control via Azures directory.
For many clients we'll likely still maintain an on-prem server. Setup dirsync. Some clients have apps that need to live locally...on -prem. But at least we move their email to O365, and file storage to SP/Teams.
We may have some clients were SP/Teams may simply not work for them...due to complex file storage, or..they just don't have the time to re-organize their folder structure so that it can work in SP/Teams. Because...for a client with decades of bloated folder structure on the "shared drive"..ya know, folders within folders within folders within folders within folders (repeat a dozen more times)...that will_not_work with SP/Teams.
So when migrating to SP/Teams...you need to wipe the slate clean and spend a lot of time with the client to replicate a secure storage setup, permissions at the top level of sites/teams.
We do welcome suggestion from peeps here who have experience with other cloud file/storage services that allow mapped drives in a more conventional manner, with deep folder structure allowed...for those old legacy pain in the butt clients that HAVE to have things work like the old days.
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Many LOB apps have offered their own cloud hosted versions lately...so that takes away some of that pain.
For some apps, like Quickbooks, they do miss a features from the local fat client install. Most people won't miss that..but for the few that do, there are a handful of cloud desktop companies that offer full Quickbooks installs. I had a few of my clients use RightNetworks (located not far from me, in New HampshireO, and there is also CloudJumper. For Quickbooks, be careful for selecting a cloud host, only a small handful of officially blessed/supported by Intuit. I would avoid ones not on this list. I don't roll the dice with my clients accounting software!!!
Here is that list
https://quickbooks.intuit.com/commu...providers-are-authorized-by-Intuit/m-p/201385
For some apps, like Quickbooks, they do miss a features from the local fat client install. Most people won't miss that..but for the few that do, there are a handful of cloud desktop companies that offer full Quickbooks installs. I had a few of my clients use RightNetworks (located not far from me, in New HampshireO, and there is also CloudJumper. For Quickbooks, be careful for selecting a cloud host, only a small handful of officially blessed/supported by Intuit. I would avoid ones not on this list. I don't roll the dice with my clients accounting software!!!
Here is that list
https://quickbooks.intuit.com/commu...providers-are-authorized-by-Intuit/m-p/201385
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Yes it is....a couple of years ago we had a client..he owns a chain of package stores in the area, he moved their POS software to a new cloud based one. We put it on Azure. What a mistake...after a few months of watching the price scale up....heh . Luckly the owner is a really crazy guy that always changes things and he moved to yet another POS system (at least twice more since then...LOL).
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Not sure if your a Microsoft partner or not, but they just shot out an email earlier this week, month of March..each Tuesday, first and second Tuesdays are a two step class on Microsofts AutoPilot.
Third and fourth Tuesdays are a two step class on Teams.
Was an "SMB Partner Insider Weekly" newsletter. Have to be a Microsoft Partner to register, spot to use your Partner ID.
Third and fourth Tuesdays are a two step class on Teams.
Was an "SMB Partner Insider Weekly" newsletter. Have to be a Microsoft Partner to register, spot to use your Partner ID.
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Any good, easy to access resources for learning SharePoint, especially as it applies to replacing a file server?
I’ve looked and watched a few videos but couldn’t find the right mix of high level, introductory type stuff along with current versions shown in the demonstrations.
I’ve looked and watched a few videos but couldn’t find the right mix of high level, introductory type stuff along with current versions shown in the demonstrations.
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One site I found..granted most of what he has drives towards his "courses" which are paid but he has a few tid bits here 'n there I'm digesting..
https://sharepointmaven.com/blog-sharepoint-best-practices/
https://sharepointmaven.com/blog-sharepoint-best-practices/
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