Manufacturing problem with ASRock

[Cyber-Tek]

Hello
That case is going for 2 months.
First take a look for that movie and photo.
Booth are new mobo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IziYk9UZH84
http://www.cyber-tek.pl/images/dscf0141.jpg
The short story:
I bought the ASRock z77 Fatal1ty Professional. After few weeks i noticed usb and lan failure. After 4 months i decided to replace the board on RMA.
Then the nightmare has started!
The shop sent me a new mobo with that dirt probably from Flux, and then they replaced it for another new mobo which contained the same dirt! and after that i decided to change the board for ASRock OC Formula, and prepare yourself....!
The shop told me that there is similar dirt at back of the board. Less dirt but still it is!
This is a high-grade mobo right? I pay for it a lot of cash and i need to accept the dirt from probably flux?
What do You say?
Of course the mobos probably work well.
Now i am talking with ASRock Europe about that case, and probably they will send me another mobo but this time straight from the HQ. May You expected the same thing with your mobos?

 

[tarik]

I think your an end user in a tech forum?

 

[Cyber-Tek]

what do You mine by that?

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

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This is a high-grade mobo right? I pay for it a lot of cash and i need to accept the dirt from probably flux?

Uhm..."No". ...it was spun off by Asus as a brand to compete with entry level cheapo brands and boards, like Foxconn. Asus itself makes some good boards (and some iffy ones..but generally very good)...but ASRock is el cheapo.

I certainly would run far far away from building and selling computers using this low grade of components.

 

[pc-quebec]

Uhm..."No". ...it was spun off by Asus as a brand to compete with entry level cheapo brands and boards, like Foxconn. Asus itself makes some good boards (and some iffy ones..but generally very good)...but ASRock is el cheapo.

I certainly would run far far away from building and selling computers using this low grade of components.

humm how long have you not see an Asrock?, Asrock is now the third manufacturers in number of boards manufactured, they are now before MSI, Asrock make very solid boards with same components as Asus, Gigabyte and MSI, Asrock also win the OC record for a z77 boards. They are in the big league now with real good stuff.

Aside the board the Op mention is not a el cheapo one. it's over $ 200 and here some spec;

Premium Gold Caps
Digi Power Design, 16 + 8 Power Phase Design
2 x PCIe 3.0 x16 Slots, Supports AMD Quad CrossFireX™, 3-Way CrossFireX, CrossFireX™ and NVIDIA® Quad SLI™, SL

in my book quad xfire and quad SLI are high end board


As for the flux on the motherboard, Well on the Asus Rog forum we see quite few members with pics of flux on their $ 300 + rog boards. It show poor Quality control.


look at the new baby of Asrock, how can you call it El Cheapo ? dual Intel NIC it cost more than a single realtec

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news...-releases-top-tier-z77-extreme11-motherboard/

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[seedubya]

Aside the board the Op mention is not a el cheapo one. it's over $ 200.

Crap manufacturer=crap board, regardless of the price tag.

A piece of electronics is more than just a collection of parts. The manufacturing process has as much to do with the quality of the eventual device as the parts do.

Comparing thte size of Asrock to MSI to Gigabyte is like comparing the relative sizes of three different dunghills. Yes, one is bigger than another but they're still all crap. I mean look at Acer FFS. Biggest (?) manufacturer of laptops in the world - but they're ****.

in my book quad xfire and quad SLI are high end board

These are high end features - just because they're on a board does not mean it's good.

 

[FoolishTech]

Crap manufacturer=crap board, regardless of the price tag.

A piece of electronics is more than just a collection of parts. The manufacturing process has as much to do with the quality of the eventual device as the parts do.

Comparing thte size of Asrock to MSI to Gigabyte is like comparing the relative sizes of three different dunghills. Yes, one is bigger than another but they're still all crap. I mean look at Acer FFS. Biggest (?) manufacturer of laptops in the world - but they're ****.


These are high end features - just because they're on a board does not mean it's good.

EXACTLY!

Also, I've personally owned two ASRock boards because I'm a cheap b*****d and I heard they were a spin off of ASUS so I decided to try them out... twice...

Both different models bought several years apart, one intel one amd based. Both sucked, and USB didn't actually die, but fails to recognize external HDDs and flash drives drop out and frequently get 'unplugged' (as far as Windows was concerned, though not physically) during file copies - does fine with mice/kbd, but also wireless adapters have to be unplugged/replugged ever 30 minutes to reset connection. As far as I'm concerned, that's dead USB. This is both boards btw. So as far as I'm concerned ASRock boards have crappy USB, period.

Also, they just suck. Had a number of POST issues with one of them - sometimes it it will, sometimes it takes like 5+ minutes to complete POST. Works fine after that, though the PC runs like butt. Threw a new ASUS board in the system with all the same components, runs like a dream.

 

[pc-quebec]

So funny negative comments from peoples who have no experience with recent Asrock motherboards.

Asrock recent high end boards are well know for their reliability, and good design end of the story, go research a little bit about it on forum like Hard OCP, Since last 6 months I use only Asrock and MSI in my build and they perform flawless, of course I'm not cheap and I don't choose the cheapest one. They have a way more easy to use EUFI Bios than Asus. Same as MSI they have improve a lot recently.

As Asus run like a dream, did you read my post today, a Maximus Extreme IV crash all the USB ports, I have to reset the BIOS to make it work again...... what a dream

 

[Cyber-Tek]

First, i want to thank all of You for joining the topic.
The ASRocks Fatal1ty series and OC Formula is the best product they have. If You look for spec of that mobos, they are very good! I paid for the board more than 200 Euro if i add extra 70Euro i could have the best Asus ROG board, so it isnt cheap mobo.
I am a huge fan of Gigabyte mobos but unfortunately nowadays gigabyte have nothing special for z77 in that price. Of course i could add extra cash but i decided to give my trust for ASRock. I am still not sure who is responsible of that thing. Human mistake, or the politics of the ASRock.
Unofficially i found out that something went wrong in factory in Taiwan. i doubt whether will be a official statement in that case, ASRock has to much to lose. That Foxconn factory manufacturing mobos not only for ASRock!
The thing is that some people try to convince me that i should take and use that board and forget about the case. Should i ?

one more thing... let we thing for a second about customers. Shops mounting that boards in their computers. If one day something go wrong and they will want to replace the boards, the shop could say that this dirt is a result of something what violate the warranty and refuse the replace.

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

humm how long have you not see an Asrock?, Asrock is now the third manufacturers in number of boards manufactured, they are now before MSI, Asrock make very solid boards with same components as Asus, Gigabyte and MSI,
.

Sorry...won't lower my standards and start calling ASrock good. Comparing them to MSI and Gigabyte doesn't help either...and yes I've even owned and built computers for myself with MSI and Gigabyte..all of them got tossed in the garbage. I love Asus and Intel boards, and some SuperMicro. But I will not raise Assrock above what they are...budget boards. They enjoy a good marketing machine...which tricks people well.

Asus knew their own brand was higher end...and they wanted a chunk of the entry level budget market...thus AssDoesntRock brand was formed....to catch the enthusiast market that can't afford real higher end products.

 

[FoolishTech]

So funny negative comments from peoples who have no experience with recent Asrock motherboards.

I know damn well you aren't talking about me. Fanboy...

 

[seedubya]

So funny negative comments from peoples who have no experience with recent Asrock motherboards.

Well I have plenty of experience with dead ones. Does that count?

 

[Cyber-Tek]

Unfortunately i must agree with that negative comments. I was thinking that the ASRock now is different, the quality is different, now i know i was wrong. Maybe one day but not now...
Of course they have great products but this is lottery how long particular mobo will work without problems.
As i said before, i bought one of the best product they have and after few weeks i lost half of usb ports and booth lan ports. There was an issue with SATA but i didnt investigate this.
Bad luck ? **** happens, right?

 

[compnet]

Sorry...won't lower my standards and start calling ASrock good. Comparing them to MSI and Gigabyte doesn't help either...and yes I've even owned and built computers for myself with MSI and Gigabyte..all of them got tossed in the garbage. I love Asus and Intel boards, and some SuperMicro. But I will not raise Assrock above what they are...budget boards. They enjoy a good marketing machine...which tricks people well.

Asus knew their own brand was higher end...and they wanted a chunk of the entry level budget market...thus AssDoesntRock brand was formed....to catch the enthusiast market that can't afford real higher end products.

I just want to take a second and say that I thoroughly enjoy your company renamings.. I think symantsuck is my favorite..

Carry on

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

company renamings.. I think symantsuck is my favorite..

Carry on

LOL over the years I've created a plethora of nicknames....SymantSuck being one of them....BloatupExec for backupexec..lol.

..Also....
Nutscrape (Netscape)
Nutgear
Stinksys
DStink
McCrapee
CrApple
Piece-0-shittio (Compaq Presario)
UnInspiron (Dell Inspiron)
StinkPad (Lenovo Thinkpad..although I love them)
RRRUntangle (Untangle UTM)
..just a few that come to mind...sure I have more...but side tracked with


Oh the years can take their toll....

 

[phaZed]

I haven't had any good experiences with ASRock here either.. as far as I'm concerned I will not buy another one.

I bought an ASRock P55 Extreme and it died in 3 months, stopped posting, and no amount of tinkering, BIOS resetting, brought it back. I promptly replaced it with an ASUS P7P55D-E PRO and it is still my main computer.

The extra $30 for the ASUS has been well worth it IMO.