PcTek9
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really? ok here it is...
http://www.chillblast.com/pconf.php?productid=19361
http://www.chillblast.com/pconf.php?productid=19361
Liquid Metal Cooling?
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JosephLeo
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Oh! Seems interesting. I'll comment and I read about the article. This might be funny.
So, is it mute or quiet? Please refine.
Seriously, I beg to differ. My DVD collection alone takes up an entire TB. I would love to get a couple 2TB HDD's in here so I can backup all my PC games and CD's as well as my old VHS and Cassette tapes and then I can throw away all this bulk.
....wait, this is a product page? They're selling that thing ON THAT EXACT PAGE? Why make it look like a news article? Why put the "base" configuration on the page if you have a multiple choice selection of parts on the bottom- redundancy is redundant is redundant. Their base model is £1,782.68 ($2,775.63 U.S. Dollars) and goes as high as £4,807.70 ($7,485.58 U.S. Dollars) seriously, at those prices you can't afford a better web designer? Do you expect to make sales like that.
This company/website sounds to me like a big fail with a capital F and the whole liquid metal concept sounds absurd and it's either made out of Gallium or Mercury. Mercury is highly unlikely since its toxicity but Gallium is more likely. although it reacts to other metals strangely and literally fuses to them on contact. Metals such as the one your CPU's built in heatsink is made out of.
It could be a custom alloy or something, but still- I don't see this being safe around the kiddies, or pets, or feet, or anywhere near a fault line. Tipping this PC over can't be safe.
So, is it mute or quiet? Please refine.
Seriously, I beg to differ. My DVD collection alone takes up an entire TB. I would love to get a couple 2TB HDD's in here so I can backup all my PC games and CD's as well as my old VHS and Cassette tapes and then I can throw away all this bulk.
....wait, this is a product page? They're selling that thing ON THAT EXACT PAGE? Why make it look like a news article? Why put the "base" configuration on the page if you have a multiple choice selection of parts on the bottom- redundancy is redundant is redundant. Their base model is £1,782.68 ($2,775.63 U.S. Dollars) and goes as high as £4,807.70 ($7,485.58 U.S. Dollars) seriously, at those prices you can't afford a better web designer? Do you expect to make sales like that.
This company/website sounds to me like a big fail with a capital F and the whole liquid metal concept sounds absurd and it's either made out of Gallium or Mercury. Mercury is highly unlikely since its toxicity but Gallium is more likely. although it reacts to other metals strangely and literally fuses to them on contact. Metals such as the one your CPU's built in heatsink is made out of.
It could be a custom alloy or something, but still- I don't see this being safe around the kiddies, or pets, or feet, or anywhere near a fault line. Tipping this PC over can't be safe.
Nom nom? "Liquid Metal type: Sodium Potassium (NaK)"
JosephLeo
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I know as a fact that NaK is a dangerous metal alloy when it comes into contact with air and poses a big fire risk. So, my point still stands- this thing is not safe even when your PC is turned off.
PcTek9
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Joseph, do you know what company makes the liquid metal cooling system they use? I'd like more information on it.
154Tech
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The company is called Danamics.(I guess because they're Danish and dynamic?)
http://www.danamics.com/Danamics_home.html
Here's a quote from their safety page:
"But what if the product leaks, one might ask? Well simply we don't believe it can. Only by mechanically damaging the product, this would be possible and even that scenario has been taken into account."
Hopefully not by the same people who figured out how many lifeboats to order for the Titanic.
From a Wikipedia article on Sodium-cooled Fast Reactors:
"A disadvantage of sodium is its chemical reactivity, which requires special precautions to prevent and suppress fires. If sodium comes into contact with water it explodes, and it burns when in contact with air."
No thanks. Their site seems to gloss over this possibility. I'm using a PC not trying to supply electricity to everyone in the county. I'll leave the potentially lethal cooling solutions to the big boys and stick with a good old cooling fan and a case with good air flow.
http://www.danamics.com/Danamics_home.html
Here's a quote from their safety page:
"But what if the product leaks, one might ask? Well simply we don't believe it can. Only by mechanically damaging the product, this would be possible and even that scenario has been taken into account."
Hopefully not by the same people who figured out how many lifeboats to order for the Titanic.
From a Wikipedia article on Sodium-cooled Fast Reactors:
"A disadvantage of sodium is its chemical reactivity, which requires special precautions to prevent and suppress fires. If sodium comes into contact with water it explodes, and it burns when in contact with air."
No thanks. Their site seems to gloss over this possibility. I'm using a PC not trying to supply electricity to everyone in the county. I'll leave the potentially lethal cooling solutions to the big boys and stick with a good old cooling fan and a case with good air flow.
MrUnknown
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154Tech
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That's just the two elements by themselves in water. Here's one where they actually do it with NaK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhqWoeskmgQ
Uhhhh, once again, no thanks. See the way that stuff bounces around? What happens if their unimpenetrable cooler does somehow get breached? I guess if your lucky, it happens with the case closed and the stuff just pinballs around the case and ruins a bunch of components. But more likely is that that unit would be accidentally breached while the case was open. Do you want that stuff flying all around your house/shop setting 14 different things on fire??
I'm no Luddite, but I think this is a technological advance I can let pass me by.
And check out this review:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/danamics-lmx-superleggera-review/1
It's not even the best at anything. It doesn't cool the best. Isn't the quietest. And it's friggin' HUGE.(I think the main advantage from using this would be the tremendous airflow capacity you'd have in any case this would fit in)
Isn't the whole point of being cutting edge to take everything to the next level? Just because you achieved the same exact results but did it in a much more technological way doesn't make it better. I don't take a hammer camping, 'cuz I know I can find a decent size rock to pound in my tent stakes. But neither a hammer nor a rock is going to explode when exposed to air or water.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhqWoeskmgQ
Uhhhh, once again, no thanks. See the way that stuff bounces around? What happens if their unimpenetrable cooler does somehow get breached? I guess if your lucky, it happens with the case closed and the stuff just pinballs around the case and ruins a bunch of components. But more likely is that that unit would be accidentally breached while the case was open. Do you want that stuff flying all around your house/shop setting 14 different things on fire??
I'm no Luddite, but I think this is a technological advance I can let pass me by.
And check out this review:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/danamics-lmx-superleggera-review/1
It's not even the best at anything. It doesn't cool the best. Isn't the quietest. And it's friggin' HUGE.(I think the main advantage from using this would be the tremendous airflow capacity you'd have in any case this would fit in)
Isn't the whole point of being cutting edge to take everything to the next level? Just because you achieved the same exact results but did it in a much more technological way doesn't make it better. I don't take a hammer camping, 'cuz I know I can find a decent size rock to pound in my tent stakes. But neither a hammer nor a rock is going to explode when exposed to air or water.
JosephLeo
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I stand corrected. It's reactive in water not air. Still, dangerous nonetheless.
MrUnknown
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yeah, according to the website that sells it, it will react to the water in the air, but because it is such a small amount of water in the air, it essentially clogs the hole and oxidizes to seal it back up.
I still wouldn't trust it. Especially for no real advantage.
K007
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The company is based at this address taken from "WhoIs":
Code:
Registrant:
shahid gulamali
the basement, 501 kings road
chelsea, london sw10 0tu
GB
Domain name: CHILLBLAST.COMUnless "The Basement" referres to a night club, the I must understand that is actually the floor (under ground).
In fact in the whole SW10 is hard to find commercial space above ground and pay less than £100 thousand per year in rent.
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