Lines of credit - do you have one?

HCHTech

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I'm about to get a line of credit for the first time in my 13+ year business history, and I'm NOT happy about it.

I'm two years into a three year buyout of another business. This process basically doubled my annual revenue, and added 120 commercial clients to my roster. I'm paying a declining percentage of revenue to the previous owner. After this month, there will be 12 months to go (I'm counting the days, believe me).

This has largely been a very positive thing, except for cash flow. Prior to this acquisition, I was about 70% residential and 30% commercial by revenue. My commercial customers were all on net-30 terms, and I never had any real problem getting paid. Unless I got a big order (my line in the sand was $5,000), I never charged upfront for hardware for commercial customers. For big orders, customers would pay 50% of the hardware cost upfront and 50% on delivery.

Now, I'm about 50% residential and 50% commercial by revenue. All of the new commercial clients were used to having net-30 terms, so I wrongly assumed that basically nothing would change w/r/t my ability to get paid. They were also used to NOT paying upfront for hardware. I didn't put my foot down initially because I was worried about giving them a reason to leave. I've retained all but 2 of the new customers 24 months in, so that initial worry about retention is over.

I've found that some customers pay as soon as they get the bill, most of them pay 30-days on the dot (but that varies as well), and some of them drag it out as long as they can. We do aggressive follow-up, but still... We average about a half-a-months revenue in accounts receivable.

Year end is tough, though. Folks want to use up their hardware budget, but not their cash reserves. Right now, we have almost two months revenue in receivables, and we're maxing out our vendor credit lines. We're making a steady profit, but a large percentage of that is going to the previous owner, which leaves us cash-strapped much of the time (vendors always want paid before we receive the income for the items we purchased).

Worse, because we recorded a note payable at the point of purchase for the estimated total payments to the previous owner, none of those monthly payments reduce my profit, so tax time is not very happy. Lots of profit and no cash. Uncle Sam took a pretty big bite last year. In the old days, I would pay bonuses to use up leftover profit at the end of the year. That option is off of the table unless you have the necessary cash reserves.

Because I didn't take the "there's a new sheriff in town" opportunity to force some more favorable (to me) terms with clients, I've found it hard to do anything but stick it out. I've finally given in and applied for a line of credit to help with cash flow, even though it makes me feel like a failure at the acquisition.

I've done a better job at managing profit this year so I won't have such a nasty surprise next April, but it's still a daily struggle to manage cash flow.

I guess there isn't really a question here, but maybe someone will avoid the traps I set for myself. If I were to do it over again knowing what I know now, I would have laid down some new rules for all commercial clients as soon as possible after the acquisition. I would have gotten a line of credit almost immediately as well.

In my case, the acquisition was an opportunity that fell into my lap, I wasn't looking to expand my business in that fashion. Had I been looking, I would have made sure I had WAY more cash reserves before jumping in.
 
After the fact, but I use DLL Group for line of credit. 30 days to make a full payment, 60 days when purchasing certain products like Dell. I think the distributors give me a slightly better price because they aren't getting hit with a credit card fee. At the beginning of the year I switched to full payment up front on hardware and software which made a big difference in cash flow. Now I'm working to get invoicing done more quickly. Many of my clients (I'm almost exclusively business clients now) pay NET30. I'd really like to get them to pay quicker. I just signed up with Intuit Payments to take credit cards, because I couldn't get people to pay with Paypal (which takes credit cards) for whatever reason..
 
I couldn't get people to pay with Paypal (which takes credit cards) for whatever reason..

Really?! I take all my payments through PayPal without any issue. Are you sending them an actual invoice via PayPal, or just expecting them to send you payment as if they are sending money to a friend?

As to the OP's question, the only line of credit I use is actually PayPal working capital. Basically they offer you a loan of an amount approximately 8% of what you bill out via PayPal in a year. The money is in your PayPal account instantly when you take a loan, and the repayment is based on your current billing. So I just have it take out 30% of each invoice until it's paid back. They charge just a fixed loan interest fee regardless of how long it takes to actually pay it back.
 
I wouldn't worry to much about the LoC @HCHTech. To begin with it's a must have. I've got one lined with my bank but have never touched it. Don't get any points like I do with CC's!!! I think you've done extremely well based on what you have said so far. Given this is a new year you might take the time to roll out some new policy changes. Maybe advise customers they need to put down 50% on all hardware purchases above XXXX.
 
Really?! I take all my payments through PayPal without any issue. Are you sending them an actual invoice via PayPal, or just expecting them to send you payment as if they are sending money to a friend?
I use the QB Paypal addon which creates an HTML button that I copy and paste into the bottom of the QB invoice that I e-mail to the client. Some clients just don't want to sign up for Paypal, and Paypal sort of hides the Guest Checkout feature if you don't pay the monthly fee for their platform and just use the free account.
 
Something else to consider @HCHTech is to work with a leasing (finance) partner who will lease the equipment to your clients. That helps significantly with cash flow and your clients just pay a small monthly fee. I just got onboarded with DLL Group's leasing division and also got off the phone with Marlin Financing. They look for the magic numbers of 70% hardware, 30% labor (aka soft costs) in the amount to be financed because they can't recover soft costs if your client defaults on the lease. They also don't like doing refurbs, but Marlin will do it if the equipment is factory recertified/refurb, not a 3rd party refurbisher selling 3+yr old off-lease computers.
 
Of course I have a line of credit. Every business should. I've never had to use it, but it's there for emergencies. It's only $75,000 anyway, so you can't do much with it. But it does help my business credit and gives an extra layer of protection in case things go south one year or I need it in order to expand.
 
yeah, mostly I'm just whining because I'm so fed up with struggling with cash flow every day for two years now. I imagine most folks would have just borrowed money to pay the original owner up front, then I'd have a 5 or 10 year loan to pay back (with interest, of course, but more reasonable payments). I thought I was so clever to negotiate a 3-year payout to avoid a big upfront payment - but I didn't appreciate up front that it would take all of my spare cash for the next 3 years to do so. I've survived so far, so i just need to grit my teeth and get through 12 more months.

We build most of the computers we sell to our customers, so that takes leasing out of the mix for everything but servers. The LOC will take the pressure off (although there was some stress associated with talking my wife into it since our home is now on the line), I just hate to do it.
 
Good to have a LOC....we've dipped into it in the past, just keep focused on paying it back, and it's a good "in case of emergency break glass" thing to have.

Do you charge interest to accounts that run past 30 days?
 
Do you charge interest to accounts that run past 30 days?

I do not. Perhaps I should. In a previous life, I was the the de-facto owner of a small actuarial firm. I was just an employee, but the owner was completely hands-off, I basically ran the business and only reported the results to the owner. In that firm (also a service business), we did charge interest on accounts that went past 30 days, and we had a constant problem with customers paying the original invoice but not paying the late fees/interest. We spent way more time and effort trying to collect the $71 late charge than it was worth. Basically, we had no leverage and clients took advantage of that.

Because of that experience, I really don't want to start playing that game in my business. I don't want to find out which customers will take advantage of us (although I already have a pretty good idea who would be on that list), and I don't want to risk the relationship over $71. I'd rather get paid at 60 days than put my foot down and lose that customer.
 
I do not. Perhaps I should. ...Because of that experience, I really don't want to start playing that game in my business. I don't want to find out which customers will take advantage of us (although I already have a pretty good idea who would be on that list), and I don't want to risk the relationship over $71. .

You'll have some clients who insist on not paying it. You'll have many clients that will pay it. And...it can deter a few clients from letting an invoice lapse past 30 days.

We don't have a lot of late payers...but a few stragglers..why not tack some late fee cabbage on it?

If a client is going to give you a hard time and try to avoid paying a late fee...those same clients will ignore your request for "net 30".

I don't consider it a game...it's easy enough to setup. Enough other businesses will do the same thing to me.
How many businesses give you interest free loans?
 
We used to get a 10% deposit on systems on order, but found that clients can really leave you in the lurch. A few years ago we changed to payment in full on order for hardware and software. Labour charges are only charge on completion of the work. We have all this put into quotes to all clients commercial and residential and very rarely have a problem with questions about this policy. We have even told insurance companies that this is our policy and don't negotiate any further. As a result we always get payment up front and pay our suppliers straight away. No hassles with debtors and no worrying about owing creditors. People can be quick to order and slow to pay.
 
I'm shocked that ANY of you offer payment terms. What are you, a bank or a computer repair store? I suggest you choose which business you want to be in and run with it. It will make your future endeavors much less stressful and much more enjoyable. I make sure to let my business clients know that payment is required UP FRONT before work begins. If they want to pay by check, fine. But it has to be a local bank and I have to physically go to the bank and get the physical cash before I begin work. I've been stiffed too many times by assholes that either refuse to pay invoices or write bad checks (or BOTH!).

Most businesses are understanding and know that not everyone accepts net30. Why anyone does for anything except wholesale/retail relationships is beyond me, and even then... The businesses that have a problem with it can go somewhere else.
 
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