It’s Time to Stop Paying for a VPN

There are times and situations I don't want my home IP visible. VPNs provide that as well as in-country access to some places requiring it. No, I'm not going to geek around for hours trying to create my own work-around as the article mentioned........
 
Only use I have seen for the VPNs advertised was more about circumventing region locked content which is a very grey legal area at best. I don't think a VPN or some such device/service is a bad idea but the ones I see advertised were always advertised as a way to watch region locked content through streaming services.
 
Yeah they are very good at dealing with the irrational concept of geo-fencing.

But they also illustrate exactly why I tell people that geographic IP controls are a waste of time.

There is only one situation where VPNs make sense... That is travel. You can hide the fact that you're traveling from the world with careful use of it. Which does have tremendous value in the right circumstances.
 
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There is only one situation where VPNs make sense...

Actually there are more than a few situations including that my son-in-law is from Bulgaria and appreciates access to those sites and online communities he had at home. I've also called in a few crime-stoppers tips and prefer my tips were not traceable. ..and I've participated in a few questionable forums (at least in the states) in the past and again appreciated my IP was not traceable.
 
I have never understood the rationale for "using a VPN" for everyday personal web browsing, especially in one's home. Every so often I have a client (I really only do residential business) who tells me they want to use one, and I ask why - never got a well formed answer. My advise has always been to trust your home WiFi , (if it's set up properly, of course, remember the days when you would find the home SSID of Linksys, with no security on it?), and use your phone's hotspot while traveling.

I have a close friend in China who needed to use a VPN to do anything - that made sense to me, until China shut down all VPNs. I also have a few clients who use VPNs to get BBC content here in the States, again, a legit purpose, even if a gray area. But this article basically states what I've told my clients for years - a VPN is about trusting the VPN company more than your own ISP, and I haven't seen a reason that you should do that.
 
I have never understood the rationale for "using a VPN" for everyday personal web browsing, especially in one's home.

But this article basically states what I've told my clients for years - a VPN is about trusting the VPN company more than your own ISP, and I haven't seen a reason that you should do that.

"Who would be trying to look at my individual home web traffic, with a microscope, and trying to use it against me?"

The honest answer is, if you're some random person on the street not targeted by a stalker or someone targeted by a state actor for reason, "no one."

I've never said, and still am not saying, that there are no legitimate reasons to use a VPN. But the fact of the matter is that any of us seldom has one, if we in fact ever have one. And changes in the way the web works, as pointed out in that article, make it even less often if the goal is to prevent "drive by snooping."

The computer security industry has, in many aspects, become the "big pharma" segment - a pill for everything and pushing them incessantly. They have no interest in having the general public even have basic knowledge to apply critical thinking skills about exactly what needs careful guarding and, when it does, how to do it. They want to sell their product, and will use advertising to gin up worry.
 
Actually there are more than a few situations including that my son-in-law is from Bulgaria and appreciates access to those sites and online communities he had at home. I've also called in a few crime-stoppers tips and prefer my tips were not traceable. ..and I've participated in a few questionable forums (at least in the states) in the past and again appreciated my IP was not traceable.
I've got news for you sir...

Your IP is not only traceable but assuming you did all this via a browser that you generally use, the behavior has already been linked to "you".

I repeat, VPNs don't do what people think they do. And the data mining done by Google is smarter than anyone gives it credit for.
 
And the data mining done by Google is smarter than anyone gives it credit for.

Probably including you (and that's meant to reinforce your point, not a swipe at you).

I have felt, because I cannot actually know in any meaningful sense of the word, that Google's capabilities as far as data collection and mining far surpass Orwellian in nature. And that's not saying that it's used for nefarious purposes, but it's absolutely used for purposes that those whose data is being collected and mined never gave explicit informed consent to.

EULAs, no matter whose they are, have but one purpose - to have the user "sell their soul" to the licensing entity because no one (including many lawyers) is capable of reading and understanding all the things that get buried in them. Luckily, in a number of court cases, the court has been "on to" this trick, and have held certain parts of EULAs void because there could be no realistic expectation of informed consent.
 
@britechguy Yeah, their behavior algorithms can identify us personally. Not as in named people, but as a defined individual with an associated data construct.

All they need is the cookie in your browser to make the link, it simply doesn't matter where you're connecting from. And worse? Those things are readable by anyone that goes looking. That's why when you look at something on Amazon, the next Amazon ad on Facebook shows you that thing again.

It's not done for nefarious reasons, other than an attempt to make every website we visit into the "walk of shame" at the grocery store. You know... that mini-isle right before the checkout with all the gum / candy bars? It's that... just the digital version.

None of us can hide the things we consume online, there is simply no such thing as privacy in this context.

The machine knows who we're going to vote for before we actually do it... the algorithm is that good. And merchants can mine that data to target their ads. It's terrifying to be honest, we won't allow a government to have this sort of power for a reason!
 
None of us can hide the things we consume online, there is simply no such thing as privacy in this context.

The machine knows who we're going to vote for before we actually do it... the algorithm is that good. And merchants can mine that data to target their ads. It's terrifying to be honest, we won't allow a government to have this sort of power for a reason!

I have been saying, for decades now, not just years, that anyone who believes that privacy exists as our parents knew it is deluding themselves. And that's even not online, in the sense we've been discussing. A huge amount of "privacy by obscurity" and difficulty in getting to the places that held public records, and searching them, has been blown away in the digital age. My mother passed away recently, and in the last few weeks I have been doing a "deep dive" into Find A Grave (run by Ancestry.com) after the monument engravers used one of their images of the tombstone from Mom's family plot and sent it to me. The number of death certificates associated with the various memorials (as they dub each grave) is just astounding, and these are all scans of materials that predate, by many, many years, the birth of the internet. They have redacted the causes of death for infant deaths, but not for adult ones. You can learn quite a bit you didn't know just from a death certificate.

I have made reference in the past to a story (and a long, in-depth one) I heard on NPR several years ago with an expert on data mining and behavior prediction being the featured guest. Even she (I seem to remember it was a woman) said that the algorithms already exist that can, and most often do, predict, and very accurately predict, things about a given individual with just a few strategic data points about them, and the more data points available, the more spookily accurate the predictions become. The demonstration used was, to me, simultaneously fascinating and horrifying/chilling at the same time.

The very concept of privacy as I conceive of it in daily life really does not exist if these algorithms, and algorithms of proven reliability and validity, are used.

And, yes, the only thing more chilling than the idea that private enterprise is already doing it is that government could be, too, at the drop of a hat if they already are not doing so in secret. But all we can keep our eyes on, literally and figuratively, is what can be seen and do our best to prevent the very worst from happening. Whether we, the people, succeed or not is an entirely different question, and there are days when I believe we will and others where I believe, most assuredly, that we will not.
 
@Diggs , I agree with his viewpoint and take on it. I believe any extra privacy precautions are better than none if a person is visiting any websites that others such as the ISP / Internet Provider may not agree with. I have some clients that are very politically engaged in their viewpoints and they feel better being able to view websites that are appealing to their viewpoints. VPN prices are very affordable now and there are many choices not based in the '5 Eyes' region.

I do however understand the other viewpoints on this thread so don't want to distract from them but thought I would add an alternative take on the subject.
 
VPN's are also useful for hiding your traffic/traffic type from your ISP.

Verizon shut down my home business more than a few times when they saw traffic from not only obvious things (like a clients Bittorrent download) but also from things such as automatic emailing scams being run from clients' computers... It doesn't help to plead with them on the phone that you are a listed and well-known computer shop that has client computers that are being disinfected, etc. By VPN'ing my client traffic at the router I no longer have any issues.
 
VPN's are also useful for hiding your traffic/traffic type from your ISP.

Verizon shut down my home business more than a few times when they saw traffic from not only obvious things (like a clients Bittorrent download) but also from things such as automatic emailing scams being run from clients' computers... It doesn't help to plead with them on the phone that you are a listed and well-known computer shop that has client computers that are being disinfected, etc. By VPN'ing my client traffic at the router I no longer have any issues.

@phaZed Great points, I agree as I did have that happen once with a client computer I ran on an isolated network at my office & used vpn on it as I was suspicious if there was malicious software on it trying to access illicit website content.
 
Following the instructions listed on the Algo VPN project website, I set up a cloud service where my VPN service would be located on Amazon’s web services, a reputable and widely trusted cloud provider. The rest of the steps involved installing some scripts on my computer and typing in commands to generate my VPN.
After about an hour, I set up a VPN that worked flawlessly. The best part? Not only is it free to use, but I no longer have to worry about trust, because the operator of the technology is me.

The last paragraph (above) from the article got me all cracked up. The VPN is free, but is the Amazon web service free? Also, setting up the service and maintaining it are free, right? So, when he operates the tech and uses the tech, whose name is tied to all the traffic from the service? Defeats the purpose completely!
 
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