Did someone say overzealous cops?

Just thank god that one of those little kids didn't run out of the room and startle that trigger happy buffoon!

My friends son like to nap and cuddle in with his German Shepard, imagine a scenario like that where the officer just starts shooting the dogs and realize there was a toddler right next to it!
 
Not to be the guy who is all pro-government and police state, but the comments contradict what the description of the video says (a caged dog was shot, comments say otherwise). Not even going on those, the video doesn't show what the dogs were doing before being shot and as such, we have no idea what they were doing.

Going on what information that was available an visable in the movie...
If I was going into someone's home to arrest them and had a dog coming towards me for any reason that seemed even remotely threatening, I would have also shot it. The information in the affidavit to get the search warrant seems pretty lacking in actual evidence or reason to invade the home. The guy's history isn't too great either. So I have no idea if they should have even gone in there in the first place.

Comments mention the "cooperating citizen" as being stupid because no name is really given, who says they didn't make the person up? Possible. But, if you spoke out against a drug dealer, would you want him looking through public records pointing you to the reason he is in jail? I think they purposely remove the name of the person who gave them the information.

That being said, hearing that dog really got to me.
 
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Probably much more to the story. There always is in this sort of thing. If it was pit bull and it wasn't caged then they should have blown it away. Unfortunate that the kids were there but it's not the police's fault that their parents were dipshits.
 
Not to be the guy who is all pro-government and police state, but the comments contradict what the description of the video says (a caged dog was shot, comments say otherwise). Not even going on those, the video doesn't show what the dogs were doing before being shot and as such, we have no idea what they were doing.

Its obvious the dog or dogs weren't caged. The guy was asking about the blood all over the floor when the police had him cuffed against the wall. I found it interesting that the dog(s) didn't start barking until the cops busted in (almost like the guy released the dog(s) when he heard the cops bust in). But busting in with a warrant to get a drug dealer is not playing around. It may come down to the 10 seconds or so of distraction could be the difference between you and your partners or the dog. You definitely can't tell the dog "stop or I'll shoot." I guess they could have come in with tazers ready instead, but that might be like bringing a tazer to a gun fight if the drug dealer comes busting out with a fully auto AK47. If you asked me the drug dealer killed his own dog and put his family in harms way by giving the cops enough reason to get a warrant to come busting in.
 
The guy had a pipe, some resin, and less than a gram. Big time drug dealer?, I think not. Yeah it's bad the dog got shot. I understand the danger of the dogs but seriously one of them was a ferocious let all hell loose 25lb corgi. I mean their was what 6 officers with high powered rifles and body armor. I mean the pit was understandable, those are dangerous dogs in some cases. Although this pit wasn't even full grown only 6-8mos old and wasn't even trained to be a viscous dog. This whole situation is a fubar snafu. They sent out a swat team to go get a guy with a pipe. I mean really didn't they have anything better to do. This is getting really out of hand. You can't send a swat team to my neighbors house just because I see them smoking a joint on their porch, and I call the cops and tell them they are a big time drug dealer. Sure if you want come out and question them, but send a swat team, wtf mate. Think of it as reverse and imagine if the informant was just wanting to get at you for some reason. Hmmm, let me call the cops and get them to give you a little "visit". That will fix your night right up.

IMO, its irrelevant if the dogs were caged or not caged. This was a clear and cut case of use of excessive force by the police department. Even if the guy had priors, you can't go on the word of an informant. You should set up a surveillance team to watch from a distance, if he was a big time drug dealer this would have come to light soon enough. Then you would get the family routines. Hey this guy is home everyday from such and such time, the kids aren't home and then you make your bust. You don't bust down the door in the middle of the night (incident happened at 20:27) and shoot the family pets in front of 2 kids. Then find out oops your just a stoner, with a pipe, and less than a gram. Well, sorry bout the dogs and terrorizing your children. Here's your misdemeanor charge.
 
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Government

As bad as this was I am far more distressed by the fact that this is only one tiny part of government abuse and yet so few people are outraged. In the last hundred years very nearly every significant freedom we had has been entirely taken away or grievously abridged and yet few seem concerned. The stereotype image of rural southern law not withstanding, the local government I grew up with would never have dreamed of the kind of outrages against people which has now become routine and taken for granted. Are we getting the kind of government we deserve? Perhaps so. I can't help but notice for example, that in this forum mention of software violations draws great criticism, yet keylogging and such, which is an egregious violation of a person, draws scarcely any criticism at all. If the word "ethics" means anything at all_and I could easily argue that it really doesn't_then considering the source of "laws", that has to be the poorest imaginable standard.
I try to bite my tongue on as much of this stuff as I can bear because I've really come to feel it's disruptive and destructive to the forum; the fundamental idea here is supposed to be cooperation. Since no two people are going to agree on everything, invariably controversial subjects will create hard feeling between members.
Well, it reached a point where I had to get this off my chest; now I'm going to just shut up. If I've offended anyone I'm sorry; just leave me with my view and I'll leave you with yours and maybe we can get back to what this forum is supposed to be about.
 
I can't help but notice for example, that in this forum mention of software violations draws great criticism, yet keylogging and such, which is an egregious violation of a person, draws scarcely any criticism at all.

I think you are wrong on this.

Many responses on this forum relating to Keyloggers that are being used to monitor a husband or whatever could be remotely illegal generally get a response to not get involved.

However, legit uses, such as monitoring your child and yes, a business monitoring their employee, should be of no concern and is not illegal in any way. Yes, you could say it is an invasion of privacy but a child has only as much privacy granted to them as the parent gives and a person has no privacy at work and it should not be assumed.

I believe I am with you on all the other points you made. I love the video on the internet where these guys rent a place and set up growing lights to have a setup can be essentially used for growing pot, but they are growing small trees or flowers or something silly. The only person who is ever there is a lawyer and the place is wired with cameras. The police use an FLIR camera to find these setups and falsify having statements that there are drugs in the home and do raids on them because they can't see what they are growing, just that they have the equipment. Sadly, I do not know the outcome of any of the cases and I need to find the videos again.

found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Fu4YVH8nA
KopBusters

edit: too bad the guy behind it looks like a hippy. he is mostly out to keep people from being busted with pot.
 
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Just thank god that one of those little kids didn't run out of the room and startle that trigger happy buffoon!

My friends son like to nap and cuddle in with his German Shepard, imagine a scenario like that where the officer just starts shooting the dogs and realize there was a toddler right next to it!

Trigger-Happy Gun-totin' cowboys in my humble opinion.Thank god I'm Australian.:D
 
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