Cloned drive ?

[cooltech]

Cloned drive help

I have cloned the drive from 500gb to 1.0tb and extend the drive from 500 to 920. Drive was failing. Now have registry problems and some services not starting.

Now the issue that I am having is I can not update window vista now. Theirs no error code. Tried repairing windows update and still nothing. Norton is having a problem too(will be reinstalling norton later).

But I feel that I am forgetting to do something after cloning the drive.

This is a dell computer with windows vista 32bit.

Would I need to reinstall vista?

Any ideas?

 

[coffee]

You didnt say what you used to clone the drive. However, I would recommend that if you still have the old drive in your possession that you try and reclone it using clonezilla. I have never had a problem cloning with clonezilla on any platform.

If you need help in the process let me know and I will be glad to help you thru it as a learning experience. Its not that hard at all.

Best Regards,

coffee

 

[andcorptech]

This is to do with the Intel storage drivers and newer hard drives. I have had about 8 in the last 3 weeks, all of them notebooks. I really do not know why I am having these issues all of a sudden but the frustrating thing is Im not really sure exactly what order of steps will fix it. We have managed to get all 8 working fine with a mixture of things, but none of them have exactly the same fix.

The main problem is the Defender Service not working , which in turn stops windows updates and can also cause issues with Windows Mail and Live Mail.

I would like to post a definite fix for this, but really cannot until I find out what order of steps is going to work.

Some things to try though,

Remove Intel Storage Drivers, then if that doesnt fix it, install an updated version of it. I have had success by changing the Intel AHCI SATA controller drivers to standard, the back again after a reboot, and I have also had to run the Windows Update " Fix it Now" on a couple of them to get it kicked back in.

I should also not that this is usually only an issue if the Drive size has changed, and you did not do a sector by sector or "Exact" copy. Doing this seems to work, but if you are wanting to increase size of the partition it will not work .

If I work out exactly what to do I will post it, but until then, try what I did, or just google it, there are tons of answers, but alot of misleading crap to go with it too.

 

[cooltech]

You didnt say what you used to clone the drive. However, I would recommend that if you still have the old drive in your possession that you try and reclone it using clonezilla. I have never had a problem cloning with clonezilla on any platform.

If you need help in the process let me know and I will be glad to help you thru it as a learning experience. Its not that hard at all.

Best Regards,

coffee

Thanks

I have and do like using clonezilla. But lately I have really been liking the redobackup and easeus to-backup bootable disc windows version.

I used the stand alone duplicator docking station. Didn't use any software for cloning this.

Do you have any tips for using clonezilla?

 

[cooltech]

This is to do with the Intel storage drivers and newer hard drives. I have had about 8 in the last 3 weeks, all of them notebooks. I really do not know why I am having these issues all of a sudden but the frustrating thing is Im not really sure exactly what order of steps will fix it. We have managed to get all 8 working fine with a mixture of things, but none of them have exactly the same fix.

The main problem is the Defender Service not working , which in turn stops windows updates and can also cause issues with Windows Mail and Live Mail.

I would like to post a definite fix for this, but really cannot until I find out what order of steps is going to work.

Some things to try though,

Remove Intel Storage Drivers, then if that doesnt fix it, install an updated version of it. I have had success by changing the Intel AHCI SATA controller drivers to standard, the back again after a reboot, and I have also had to run the Windows Update " Fix it Now" on a couple of them to get it kicked back in.

I should also not that this is usually only an issue if the Drive size has changed, and you did not do a sector by sector or "Exact" copy. Doing this seems to work, but if you are wanting to increase size of the partition it will not work .

If I work out exactly what to do I will post it, but until then, try what I did, or just google it, there are tons of answers, but alot of misleading crap to go with it too.

Thanks

Will try it and see what I get.

I wonder if updating the hard drive firmware might work? Either manufacturer of the hard drives and or the manufacturer of the pc.

Might take a look at this if it is a westerndigital.
http://www.wdc.com/global/products/features/?id=7&language=1

 

[mraikes]

I have cloned the drive from 500gb to 1.0tb and extend the drive from 500 to 920. Drive was failing. Now have registry problems and some services not starting.

Now the issue that I am having is I can not update window vista now. Theirs no error code. Tried repairing windows update and still nothing. Norton is having a problem too(will be reinstalling norton later).

But I feel that I am forgetting to do something after cloning the drive.

This is a dell computer with windows vista 32bit.

Would I need to reinstall vista?

Any ideas?

Please post your results after all the hard drive/firmware stuff. I've never had issues with drive firmware or storage drivers etc. when just cloning old to new, so I'm curious.

My first thought was that Norton is the problem. Or that you'd simply cloned the problems from the old drive, and now need to repair them. Or both.

Was Norton, Windows Update, etc. all working just fine with the old drive?

 

[FoolishTech]

Was Norton, Windows Update, etc. all working just fine with the old drive?

That would be my question. Except the old drive was dying..... So while it may not be working on the old drive due to corruption or some other reason, it's also possible that it could be working on the old drive, but something just didn't clone over properly.

Now if it doesn't work on the older drive, trying to clone again with better cloning software as others have suggested may be irrelevant, otherwise it's worth a shot. Then again, especially if the drive is that bad off, you may just be thankful that you retrieved data at all - back up the data to your network storage or another drive, then install a fresh copy of Windows on that new drive.

 

[cooltech]

Please post your results after all the hard drive/firmware stuff. I've never had issues with drive firmware or storage drivers etc. when just cloning old to new, so I'm curious.

My first thought was that Norton is the problem. Or that you'd simply cloned the problems from the old drive, and now need to repair them. Or both.

Was Norton, Windows Update, etc. all working just fine with the old drive?

Thanks

Norton and windows update and all was working just fine before cloning. The other problems might have been when I tried to repair the windows update with d7.

I have recloned the drive again and seem to be working better. I have upated the intel driver and running a wd align tool. Well see what happens.

 

[cooltech]

Just an update so far.

Updated the firmware/ intel drive. The drive seems to work better now.

The same issue is back can't update windows.

The message that I get for the windows update is please check for update. Then I cliock on the update button then another pop-up message says that you need restart windows update services or restart computer.

Now I have repaired the windows update, restarted the update service and restarted computer. Still not worked.

Internet does work just fine.

Do not have windows vista disc. Other wise I would run registry/windows repair.

Any ideas?

Thanks

 

[NYJimbo]

I dont see any mention of how the cloning process went, what I mean is retries, failed reads, bad sectors ?

Also eliminate the weird stuff, run 2 passes of Memtest 86+, I have seen flakey ram cause issues with service pack installs or updates but otherwise the machine will run ok.

Did you chkdsk and sfc the cloned drive to make sure you didnt have any corrupt files, bad indexes, etc ?

 

[cooltech]

I dont see any mention of how the cloning process went, what I mean is retries, failed reads, bad sectors ?

Did not have any problems with cloning. I ran the dell diag and that is how I found out that the drive was bad in the first place. So I just cloned the drive hoped it would work. I quess I was wrong with thinking just clone the drive.

Also eliminate the weird stuff, run 2 passes of Memtest 86+, I have seen flakey ram cause issues with service pack installs or updates but otherwise the machine will run ok.

I use the dell diag, plus the 30 min extra test. But will try memtest86+ too.

Did you chkdsk and sfc the cloned drive to make sure you didnt have any corrupt files, bad indexes, etc ?

Used d7 sfc scan found but could not fix. tcpmon.ini,setting.ini = printing standard monitor and windows sidebar not able to fix corrupt files.


This is helpful if I had the vista disc.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/86959-access-vista-install-dvd-files.html


Thanks

 

[cooltech]

Fixed


Thank you all for your help.

I had to reset the windows update manually.
But the rest of the drive is fine now after updating the firmware and installing the newer intel drivers.

Norton and windows update works.

 

[coffee]

Thanks

I have and do like using clonezilla. But lately I have really been liking the redobackup and easeus to-backup bootable disc windows version.

I used the stand alone duplicator docking station. Didn't use any software for cloning this.

Do you have any tips for using clonezilla?

I always use expert mode and then make sure it tries but skips bad sectors and just moves on. Its pretty fool proof.

Glad to hear that you got your problem solved. I was actually quite busy today and this is the first I have been able to get back and check on the threads.

Congrats!

coffee