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Old 09-07-2011, 01:47 AM
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7B is typically related to storage drivers or memory access errors I believe. With regard to the malware, however, if you narrow it down, there are only a number of places they can hide:
  1. Regular user-mode processes/services
  2. User-mode drivers (sometimes rootkits)
  3. Kernel-mode drivers (often kernel-mode rootkits)
  4. MBR
  5. Router settings (DNS-changing trojans and rootkits)
  6. Removable drives
That's it. There is no chance for a revival as long as those items are known to be clean. Since you reinstalled with a new drive, as long as you didn't image the drive from the old one first, the MBR can't possibly be infected. And that also eliminates any chance of user-mode processes/services or user-mode or kernel-mode drivers being a problem. So, then, the last two items are router settings and removable drives. If this occurred during setup, it's impossible for those to be to blame. If later, as long as neither of those is an issue, your STOP error is related to something entirely different.

Maybe the RAM is bad?
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:28 AM
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Or use a boot disk like avg or dr web
I'm digressing here, but watch out for these boot disks. They don't load the registry hives and often they render a PC unbootable. Only use them as a last resort. If they do render the computer unbootable then check this registry location with ERD Commander or Bart PE...
HKCU > Software > Microsoft > Windows > Windows NT > Current Version > Winlogon > Shell value should be Explorer.ese
Also check the same location but under HKLM if using ERD Commander.

Save yourself the headaches by using ERD Commander or BART PE to edit registry start up entries from the get go. I edit the registry offline as STEP ONE when removing viruses.
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good feedback guys - thx

haven't checked the mobo for visual damage yet - or RAM

will try that this morning



as for the OS media - it was *brand new* - unopened - i doubt that was "corrupted" or scratched etc

but yeah.. i'll have to check around for anything else it could be
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no blown caps

they had two RAM chips - attempted installing OS w/ only one and then the other RAM chip - BSOD both times
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Could potentially be a CPU issue! Just for sake of sanity, I'd also run a diagnostic on the new drive as well. After that, you've pretty much covered everything but possibly controller driver errors during the install I guess? It certainly isn't malware related.

If you've got anything like the PC Doctor hardware testing toolkit handy, it'd be immeasurably useful in this sort of situation to help rule out possible hardware issues.
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:49 PM
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Ive had good results with this stop error by using the registry restore wizard on the ubcd4win. I would also try running the fixmbr command from the recovery console if you cant access it from the setup disk i believe it is an option also on the boot menu of the ubcd4win.

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I had the same error "load needed DLLs for kernel" a while back on a Dell Precision 650. (My back still hurts from lifting this thing!!)

It happened 90% of the time at boot and would do strange things when booting in to XP and after it was loaded. It finally stopped booting into XP and would just give the error mentioned above.

I tried several HDD with no success. During hardware inspection I found 75% of the MB Caps bulging or busted! Then found out during Google research that this particular MB/Model was prone to cap issues.

I still this mass of PC plastic sitting around, just needs a new or referb MB or cap kit.
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Have you tried a linux distro in order to rule out hardware?

I would also consider a overheating issue with the cpu, try some new thermal paste.

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Could potentially be a CPU issue!
My money would be on the powersupply, I haven't seen a faulty CPU in a LONG time, but I also stopped overclocking

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Just for sake of sanity, I'd also run a diagnostic on the new drive as well. After that, you've pretty much covered everything but possibly controller driver errors during the install I guess? It certainly isn't malware related.

If you've got anything like the PC Doctor hardware testing toolkit handy, it'd be immeasurably useful in this sort of situation to help rule out possible hardware issues.
I agree, some basci hardware testing is needed: download latest Memtest (which also tests the 'northbridge', which is part of the CPU these days) & run a hard disk diagnostic (this also stress-tests the 'southbridge' and/or hard disk controller).
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Old 12-04-2011, 04:54 PM
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WRT to the BSoD when doing a fresh install, check which mode your BIOS is running in to access the hard drive - either ACPI or standard IDE. Which ever it is, swap to the other and try that. Had this several times back when I actually did PC repair (rather than just networks).
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