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Old 07-03-2008, 04:07 AM
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Default F11 key on gateway PC's

does anyone know what file the F11 key looks for on a gateway when you do a recovery? I know they use PC Angel software for the recovery, but I cant find how the recovery goes thru the steps.
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Old 07-03-2008, 06:00 PM
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When you hit F11, the system boots to another partition on the hard drive.
The partition usually isn't assigned a drive letter in Windows, but it's based off of a Windows PE enviroment and then uses whatever recovery software (pc angel, ghost, or whatever).

Is that what you meant?
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Old 07-05-2008, 02:10 AM
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Yes, thank you but this i already know. I noticed that when I installed an XP install with out the gateway recovery partition, the F11 key option doesnt show up at bootup. So the recovery must stick a file or entry somewhere to make the F11 key display the text at bootup. I'm searching for this entry is it a file or entry somewhere-maybe a hidden registry entry.
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Old 07-05-2008, 02:23 AM
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No, it's built into the boot partition. It's just an ultra lightweight boot manager that gives you a few seconds to choose to boot to an alternate partition. You can do the same thing on little bigger scale, using any of the numerous boot managers....
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Old 07-05-2008, 11:44 AM
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thank you. would you know what the software (PC Angel) changes once you make your first recover disks. after that the recovery manager wont let you make another copy of your recovery disks. thanks for yor help in advance
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Old 07-05-2008, 01:10 PM
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You might be able to reset the recovery disc tool using this small app (attached).
It's a tool I actually downloaded from gateway a long time ago, but it also works on a few other brands of system, too.
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:53 PM
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The BIOS only displays the F11 recovery option if a hidden recovery partition exists.

If someone has already formatted the drive and tried to install a new OS, then that partition is deleted also, so you won't get the option.

There is no special file or registry entry.
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Old 07-06-2008, 03:30 AM
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Thanks so much for the file-I will give it a try. I can say for sure that the folder does not need to be hidden, or need to be the D drive for the F11 key option to show up on boot up. I un-hid mine and named the D drive to R and made a new D drive for storage. How did the F11 option stay around when I moved things around?
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Old 07-06-2008, 03:42 AM
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How did the F11 option stay around when I moved things around?
No offense to him, but Mr. Mille's incorrect. The F11 thing isn't in the bios.* On HP's and such it SHOWS when the Bios screen flashes, but it's still a small bootloader on the hard drive. Until you modify, replace, or erase the boot record on the hard drive, the F11 thing will show up. You can get rid of the partition, move it, resize it, rename it, whatever you want so long as you don't touch the boot record the message still shows. If you change TOO much, it might not be able to boot to the recovery partition, but it's still going to try.

(* Want proof? Move a hard drive with a restore partition to another different system...the message still works, the recovery partition should still boot(but may not run because it checks the DMI information))

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Old 07-06-2008, 03:49 AM
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The file didnt work on first try. But I have moved things around. What I Have done/trying to do. I copied the recovery partition from laptop A to laptop B-to the D drive. I have gotten recovery manager to work(it will restore from the recovery partition) but still no F11 option at bootup. The Recovery partition is Fat32 as It should be. Could this PC angel software maybe write something to the MBR, because this would be different on a copied partition(Its not an image)
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