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Old 05-04-2011, 02:29 PM
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Having worked with computers for 20+ years, my wife thinks I ought to know a lot... But I know nothing about this problem... And I'm in big trouble unless I solve it!

My son is coming up to his 15th birthday. He is the Leader of a "clan" playing an MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) game with a lot of graphics.

I know very little about the gaming side of computing.

My son complains that the game goes too slow on his PC. It is an old Dell E520, but upgraded to 3GB RAM and Windows 7, with a new mid-range graphics card some 2.5 years ago. Our internet connection is a standard home one.

My wife (who knows about as much about computers as I know about the anatomy of a penguin) is determined to buy him a new notebook for about $500. I think that, far from solving the problem, it would make things worse.

My son is guessing that a better (and far more expensive) broadband connection would solve things, but I am not convinced.

My guess is that a very good new graphics card would be the best answer.

Please help with impartial advice! My family will never respect me if I get this wrong.
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what MMO, and what are the system requirements for it?
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Having worked with computers for 20+ years, my wife thinks I ought to know a lot... But I know nothing about this problem... And I'm in big trouble unless I solve it!

My son is coming up to his 15th birthday. He is the Leader of a "clan" playing an MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) game with a lot of graphics.

I know very little about the gaming side of computing.

My son complains that the game goes too slow on his PC. It is an old Dell E520, but upgraded to 3GB RAM and Windows 7, with a new mid-range graphics card some 2.5 years ago. Our internet connection is a standard home one.

My wife (who knows about as much about computers as I know about the anatomy of a penguin) is determined to buy him a new notebook for about $500. I think that, far from solving the problem, it would make things worse.

My son is guessing that a better (and far more expensive) broadband connection would solve things, but I am not convinced.

My guess is that a very good new graphics card would be the best answer.

Please help with impartial advice! My family will never respect me if I get this wrong.
1) What is the Game?
2) What is the Processor on the desktop?
3) What is your internet speed?
4) 32 bit or 64 bit Win7 and which version of windows is on the desktop?
4) Check the Ping - go to http://pingtest.net to check your ping. ( you can have 100mb speed but if your ping isn't there then the gaming will still suck)
6) What are specs on the Laptop?

Check that out and let us know.......
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:04 PM
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Many thanks for the quick replies!

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You can go here http://www.speedtest.net/ to test your internet speed.
The results were: Download speed 15.08 Mbps and Upload speed 0.86 Mbps.

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what MMO, and what are the system requirements for it?
It is Fallen Earth. Here are the System Requirements, which include recommended nVidia GeForce 8800GTS.

The box his graphics card came in says PNY GeForce9 9500GT. It does say nVidia partner, too.

I'm afraid the graphics card specs mean nothing to me! Is 9500 better than 8800, or is GTS better than GT? Or do I have it all wrong?

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The bandwidth speed you've got should be plenty, but there's latency to worry about too.

Haven't they got a latency tool on the Fallen Earth website?
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Also, is it slow all the time or only when there is a lot of things going on?

For instance, I used to play World of Warcraft and I would almost always experience a slow down when I got around a large crowd of other players, like in towns and such and when I was in a fight with tons of NPCs around. Otherwise it clipped along just fine.
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... Haven't they got a latency tool on the Fallen Earth website?
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Also, is it slow all the time or only when there is a lot of things going on?...
Thanks, guys. I'll have to ask him when he gets home from school!
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More than likely your best upgrade path is a video card.

Like others say if your latency is good (ping 4.2.2.2 and if it's below 150ms) you are fine.

I tend to buy "last years best" video cards, they are cheap power horses. I've only ever splurged one other time and wasn't as impressed.

Find you a current video card in the 100-120 dollar range and you shouldn't have to upgrade for the lifetime of that computer.
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4) Check the Ping - go to http://pingtest.net to check your ping. ( you can have 100mb speed but if your ping isn't there then the gaming will still suck)
Pingtest.net says 17ms ping and 2ms jitter (I don't know what that is!)

Speedtest.net says 19 ms ping.

Some of your other questions were answered when I edited my earlier post, and some answers I still have to discover.

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Like others say if your latency is good (ping 4.2.2.2 and if it's below 150ms) you are fine...
"ping 4.2.2.2"? Sorry, no idea what that means! (OK. Found it!)
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