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Old 03-04-2008, 02:43 PM
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Default Hello to all from Lorain, Ohio

I am new to the tech field but a long time computer user. I've done the MSDOS thing, and the MS Windows thing and now I sling Linux and FOSS. I am still having fun.
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Old 03-04-2008, 03:25 PM
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Welcome to Technibble. Have you tried the OSX thing yet?
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:20 PM
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Default Hello from Lorain, Ohio

Gunslinger, thanks for the welcome.
No, I haven't done OSX. I worked shortly as a tech at a school that had lots of Macs, PC's and Mac servers but did not get the opportunity to explore OSX. Personally, I have a beef against Mr. Jobs and his kingdom, has to do with control and economics. I have seen and heard many good things about OSX, I thought that Macs might be an alternative to MS PC's but I just can't afford the hardware and the software. It would be interesting to know more about OSX and the available applications on that platform. I was wondering, now that the new OSX will run on some Intel machines, does OSX require special system ROMs on the motherboard and does that exclude MS Windows or Linux from being used on those machines?
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Old 03-04-2008, 11:30 PM
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Welcome from Cleveland.

I personally would love to try a mac out, but since i support windows boxes I think it only makes sense that would be my primary os.

However I am getting close to suggesting a mac (even though I've never used one) to some family members who can't keep a machine clean unless we take away their admin privs.
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Old 03-05-2008, 03:41 AM
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I'm not a mac guy either and don't know the answers, but you mind find them by googling 'osx86'.
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:35 AM
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hi, im new in tech thing..i just want to know , how "hot-spot" works ...securities and etc..thanks...
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Old 03-05-2008, 11:16 PM
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What's a Mac? :P
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:23 PM
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Default What's a Mac?

A Mac is the ultimate in vendor lock. While I appreciate the level of polish and perfection, I can not afford the level of commitment. Still as a techie it would be good to learn a little about the platform. But what is hot-spots and securities.....?

I confess, I am a Linux fanboy. I watched the movie "The Pirates of Silicon Valley" and if that was a accurate portrayal of Jobs and Gates, the kingdoms they've built and the product outcomes, then computing and users are doomed to a lifetime of abuse and servitude. If not, then excuse my misguided judgment. I also watched the movies, "The Code Linux", "Revolution OS" and "The Free Software Movement" on YouTube and came away with a different impression. I have heard Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman talk. I am totally amoured by Linux and open source software as a movement and as products. So the "dynamic duo" has become "the three Musketeers" and according to personality, Mr. Torvalds is the more stable one among them. He has produced an outcome not as glitzy as Job's but more stable than Gate's. The clincher was when another millionaire, Mark Shuttleworth, funds and develops Ubuntu Linux and gives it away.

I know how we value the apparent success and dependency upon the product outcomes of Mr. Jobs and Mr. Gates but it does not mean that there are not other solutions in the world. Linux grew up along side and with the internet, and while not a model of the American dream, it is still a successful outcome. The genius of Jobs and Gates has been trumped by the genius of Torvalds who just wanted a free operating system. It works on the server and to the dismay of many (including server admins and Linux power users) works on the desktop too. Linux is not really a new comer, its heritage is older than both Macs or MS, but you all know that. We have been under the marketing and use of Macs and MS for so long that we can't imagine another platform making inroads. We resist, compare and try to discount any idea that Linux is just as good and worst if some say it is better. That is all a human nature thing. Over time the smoke and mirrors marketing and the pony shows are over. The stuff going on in the background becomes reality because somebody just wanted a free operating system and set it in motion. Linux, so complex it takes years to know it well, yet so simple you could work it with six commands, point and click, drag and drop, cut and paste.

The realities of life is that we live in a MS dominated world and Macs are in there too. MS products seem to fuel the PC tech and maintenance market because flaws and obsolescence make money for MS and us. We really don't like change or we have large committed user bases, time, money and data in the platforms we bought into. But technologies change, improve, there are new and different solutions to doing the same things and when known, migrations begin to happen. We examine, compare, and pop in a live-CD, then dual-boot, then virtual machine, finally make a commitment to a new platform. Why, because the whole Linux world from concept to finished desktop outcome is cool, like making snowballs with an ice cream scoop. Though having to learn myself and teach others about Linux, I am having fewer to no MS Windows problems or commitments in writing (end user agreements). Linux is green, portable if need be, low or high powered, it is adjustable, configurable, and flexible. Linux is free ( no coupons to clip, no money back guarantees) or if you must, pay for it. But in any respect the Linux genie is out of the bottle and its allure is being discovered, soon we will have to support it too.
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