View Full Version : Help with special configuration

07-29-2009, 10:57 PM
Hey guys, needing some advice as to the course of action to take in fulfilling a client's request.

He owns 2 adjoining shop fronts which have residences attached at the rear. One shop front is currently used for his own business, and the other he has renovated and is soon to be rented out as a full seperate residence.

He has intentions of installing surveillance for his own shop and also in key sections of the rented out residence, with the ability to access streams remotely from his home.

as part of the price tenants will be paying, he wishes to include internet access, and would like to offer them a set bandwidth/allowance with the option of paying for extra usage should their allocated allowance be exceeded. he only has 1 cable internet line, currently dynamic ip, which is in his main shop. As he only uses around 1gb of his 20gb monthly usage plan, he figures the tenants could pay the difference.
He wants to be notified when tenants are nearing their usage cap, and also be able to monitor/record usage habits to ensure tenants do not violate law etc. This must also be setup so that tenants do not have to install any additional software to their own computers.

He currently has only 1 machine in his main shop, which is due to be replaced.

so essentially, i figure he's going to need a server which would share the internet line, which would manage policies and profiles.
The internet line will also be utilized to recieve remote connections to the port designated by the DVR surveillance unit.

The tenant network must be kept seperated and safe from his own business network/surveillance setup.

can any1 shed some light on what would be the best way to achieve the above?

i was thinking configuring a cisco switch to seperate both networks and allow connectivity as required, or a line going from the server into a switch. sorta confused at this point.

also, does windows server OS have the capability to host reporting tools and admin usage features as required for his requests? or would i need seperate internet cafe=style applications to run from the server??

would appreciate it if a network topology/diagram could be given to illustrate your comments, if requred (not necesarry though)

thank you in advance


07-29-2009, 11:49 PM

07-30-2009, 12:11 AM
thank you for the prompt reply! although those products will be considered, i was wondering if there is another way to achieve my aims. those products seem to be more designed for larger scale/commercial setups.

all my client requires is a way to allocate a set amount of data, with a reporting mechanism that alerts him when a tenant is nearing his cap, or a reporting mechanism that displays how much extra data was used so he can organise manual billing himself. pay as you go seems a little too hardcore at this stage, and keep in mind cost is an issue also, preferably we'd like a way to use one device to take care of managing both private and tenant networks/rerquirements.


07-30-2009, 01:33 AM
I don't have much experience with it, but perhaps Routing and Remote Access in Windows Server will do what you need ....? I can't recall if it does anything with network quotas or not.

ProTech Support
07-30-2009, 03:29 AM
I have never seen anything like this, pretty damn neat:


07-30-2009, 06:08 AM
would this work?

Only costs 20 bucks. Simple and right to the point.

It wouldnt stop them from going over, but it would tell him how much they are using.

Edit- Heres a free one, if this will work.

there is also a number of ddwrt compatible routers that you could set him up with, and run rflow to see. thats if his actual workstation is not gonna be the mule.

It would be much easier to monitor the traffic and such, then to actually try to limit them to cut off at 19 or whatever gigs.

07-30-2009, 02:11 PM
excellent ty for the replies.

got me thinking outside the box on a few things.


07-31-2009, 12:03 AM
If the homeowner is up to something nasty such as hacking, illegal selling, spamming, pornography, etc.; the internet access for the business could be affected by an IP block by the ISP or government.

07-31-2009, 07:17 AM
I was thinking windows xp would be fine as a server (which is needed to intall/run the DVR system), run the main internet line either via router or straight into ethernet, and share this conx via ICS from the 2nd gigabit nic into a wireless AP which the tenants can access. reason for this is that i felt it was possible to pull off this setup which also enables the use of AllegroSurf, which needs a middle man device to provide bandwidth/filtering, which will be shared from the ICS NIC2. saves me from having 2 seperate pc's to do the job that 1 machine can potentially handle just fine. The bandwidth tools mentioned above will work fine i assume. but the only concern is that the tenant network will essentially be plugged straight into the server, seperated by the Wireless AP.

The IP address will be changed to a static one soon to facilitate reliable web/services access.

does the above setup sound ok, or do you foresee any problems, or perhaps a better way to go about it?