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hondablaster
11-27-2011, 09:45 PM
Hello Bryce I really think its time for a virtualization section to the forum. I am getting hardcore into XenServer, and planning on firing up a ESXi I know we have visualization talent and back in the pizza tech war days we all stressed about being ahead in the game in rough and changing market.

I find myself seeking a new forum for rinky dink questions that someone with 2-3 years under their VMware belt could answer, this is a perfect opportunity for the forum to grow and gain enhanced talent. Right now VM is for either hobbyist or Corporate enterprise but there is no reason for a small business to not use this low cost tech. The major problem is the perception by many is that is has no place in the tech shop or small business environment. This could not be further from the truth. The concept of an appliance defies that logic. Instead of setting up a series of programs that do a function, import an appliance pre configured and NAT a port to it!!!! Does SIP, or NAS ring a bell? Heck we could have the "Technibble OS" appliance based on linux with a set of repair tools. But how can we get there if all those talented individuals are off in a Citrix, Xen, VMware, and even MS Hyvper V forum.


I really like the concept of "appliances" I really think were losing out every day a VM forum is not active.

Catagories: Hyper Visors, Appliances, What else.......

Thanks for listening!

16k_zx81
11-27-2011, 10:50 PM
I really think this kind of highly specialised discussion would be better catered for in a dedicated community.

From a search query for 'xenserver' there are 3 uses of the keyword in TN.

By comparison there are 16,000 threads in the xenserver section at Citrix.

The quality of discussion there will be better. Even if you wanted to only discuss the business aspects of this system, there isnt the population here to support it.
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hondablaster
11-28-2011, 01:14 AM
I really think this kind of highly specialised discussion would be better catered for in a dedicated community.

From a search query for 'xenserver' there are 3 uses of the keyword in TN.

By comparison there are 16,000 threads in the xenserver section at Citrix.

The quality of discussion there will be better. Even if you wanted to only discuss the business aspects of this system, there isnt the population here to support it.
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This is debatable under the chicken or the egg scenario. There is no discussion of it because there is no forum category encouraging it, thus we are not drawing in that crowd.

I understand what you are saying about highly specialized but I think your underestimating how common this is and will become in the future as time goes by. I would think it would be hard to say that there are techs in here who don't use virtualbox or vmware fusion from time to time. Even if it come down to a debate of "which is better" just to start. :)

I really am only asking for one category; what is the harm in trying it out for 6 months to a year and see what happens? I'll try to post even if noone answers to chum the water so to speak. Just debating on this topic will stoke some curiosity in others.

I also need to mention XenServer and VMware have free editions which are very powerful and you can be up and running in few minutes.

http://www.technibble.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2008&stc=1&d=1322447224

thebige
11-28-2011, 01:26 AM
+1 for this. I use virtual box everyday for both personal and business use.

Slaters Kustum Machines
11-28-2011, 04:12 AM
Another +1 I use VMware Workstation daily for personal use and will be implementing it for business use as soon as the new server is up and running after the first of the year. I would like to see more about Citrix as well.

NETWizz
11-28-2011, 06:43 AM
I use VMWare ESX at work though we are switching to Hyper-V (it is about $$$) not quality.

That doesn't mean we need a forum for it on Technibble. I am on the VMWare forum and Micosoft MSDN forms, which have dedicated areas for this stuff. They have entire communities for EACH product! :D

Technibble, in my limited opinion, is a website focused mainly on Computer Techs & their Tech businesses.


I used to be a tech and enjoy hanging around here though technically, I am neither a computer tech nor a business owner. It doesn't mean I can't still help or take some of the non-standard questions in tougher jobs.

Overall, you will find that... Virtualization is more an enterprise/corporate thing, so most computer techs don't need to dedicate their job to it. VMWare and Microsoft really aren't dumping large sums of capital into things like Virtual PC and VMWare Workstation... They are focuses on their Enterprise products, which pay the bills. Yeah, you might get the occasional question about VMWare Workstation or VMWare Player (from a customer), which can be expected... in which case it doesn't hurt to post it.

Heck, you will sometimes run into Active Directory and other things you aren't used to, so by all means POST in the most applicable category.

What I am saying is that Tech-nibble is more catered to you, and I feel it needs to stay that way; since, it serves a special niche.


Believe me I see stuff all the time on here that you guys encounter that I don't. If I had a system infected with TDS version 4, I wouldn't have a clue where to start or what to do from experience. Instead, I would have to do an Internet search and read a few forum articles, where somebody here knows EXACTLY how to deal with it because they do it every day... or I might just re-image - something I couldn't do if I had a customer.

PC-Technix
12-31-2011, 04:25 AM
I use VMWare ESX at work though we are switching to Hyper-V (it is about $$$) not quality.

That doesn't mean we need a forum for it on Technibble. I am on the VMWare forum and Micosoft MSDN forms, which have dedicated areas for this stuff. They have entire communities for EACH product! :D


Does the VMWare Forum run on Tapatalk? I have looked/searched. I'm interested in VMWare

hondablaster
01-21-2012, 10:10 PM
The VM talk is picking up slowly in the forum. Lets give this idea another look. No matter your thoughts on it, it will be in the SME game sooner or later. Lets start building on this.

pcman2010
01-21-2012, 10:40 PM
agreed.........................

kevinjhaag
01-21-2012, 10:58 PM
Well I already use virtualization in small businesses already. If I had a question or problem... yeah I would go to dedicated community forums. But on TN, I can see questions on how to start implementing and using it for businesses. I definetly could see more talk of it and especially terminal services due to devices like tablets. An example... A user from a tablet can work on a machine as though he is actually on it. So if they wanted to use photoshop they can because it would be on a virtual machine that they can access from their tablet. There's no getting away from tablets and many know that as well. Less hardware because their is actually no real machine with photoshop but a virtualized one. But these machines need to be beefy machines... the lowest amount of ram in a machine I have out there has 4GB... but mine here at my office has 16GB with along a 6-core cpu and 4TB of storage. But I'm always messing around with the virtualization stuff. As I'm writing this I'm doing it within a virtual machine from my iPad. I've been accessing a virtual machine with a ipad just in the last 4-5 months. Its pretty neat. Some of the businesses I service I can see them doing this in the near future. Can't Wait! Well back to work...Take care, everyone.

Kevin

tankman1989
04-06-2013, 12:45 AM
I didn't read much of this thread but the title is what I'm agreeing with. I think we should have a section dedicated to virtual whatever as it is a huge part of business support these days and probably getting bigger in the home market.