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Automate
02-11-2011, 04:41 PM
I am getting more and more into SEO: backlinking, directory submissions, and keyword targeting. Yet, I am a bit confused on article submission for SEO.

Would the article be a general advertisement for my business with location keywords being in the anchor text?

General computer tips with location based anchor text of my business?

I have seen examples, but the articles are mainly for national products or campaigns. Haven't found many examples with local and service based businesses.

BostonGeek1
02-11-2011, 05:40 PM
there's 2 types of article submissions usually; spammy and non-spammy ones. The non-spammy ones have real unique content that people will reference and will drive real traffic to your site and convert visitors into buying customers. The other kind is spammy which are designed to create a backlink with the exact keyword you are trying to rank for.

Automate
02-12-2011, 12:32 AM
My goal is mainly to rank higher in the search results. I have found some services that can build links for a reasonable rate. I have been hesitant because seo backlink services all seem to just spam backlinks to your site.

If that is how to get higher ranking without being penalized by google, then I would go for it.

Any opinions on whether backlink services are more bad than good?

dogskool
02-12-2011, 03:33 AM
Ranking in the search engines is a popularity contest. Links are like votes. Votes from the popular kids weigh more than the spammer kids. The more links you have from the popular, reputable sources, the higher your rankings.

The easiest way to build decent backlinking is:
http://angelasdiscountmarket.com/backlink_builder.html
(I've watched a site go from 998 in Google to 36 in a few months)

Article backlinking is hard, since the effort to write good non-spammie articles and post them to all the sites takes a lot of time and wouldn't it be better to have your content in your own blog/site?

If you decide to go the article backlinking, these are decent sites to place articles:
Squidoo
HubPages
WordPress.com
Blogger
LiveJournal
Blogsome
Weebly
Quizilla
Vox
WikiSpaces
WetPaint
Tumblr
DevHub
Ezinearticles

When you write article in these sites it's best to sprinkle a link or two with your targeted keywords to your main site and then link to other sites in your link wheel network.

I am NOT recommending their services, but here are descriptions of link wheel models.
http://www.seo-back-links.com/link_wheel.htm

This article makes some good points about link wheel building.
http://michaelmindes.com/bogus-link-wheel-benefits

Then use a service like Pingler to keep things active:
http://pingler.com/

16k_zx81
02-12-2011, 05:02 AM
My goal is mainly to rank higher in the search results. I have found some services that can build links for a reasonable rate. I have been hesitant because seo backlink services all seem to just spam backlinks to your site.

If that is how to get higher ranking without being penalized by google, then I would go for it.

Any opinions on whether backlink services are more bad than good?


Grab the SEO toolbar from SEOBOOK and check your competition in Google for whatever keywords you are wanting SERP for (Ie "computer repairs yourtown").

What you will see is that the guys who are at #1 for high competition keywords have more backlinks, sometimes a hell of a lot more. The toolbar will also allow you to make some informed decisions about how to get rank by making other comparisons with those you need to compete with.

+1 for paul and angelas for backlinks. Check out warriorforum for more providers and deals.

As I understand it, there's a few ways you can do article submission.

You can do spammy 'spun' articles and spam them with software. You can create quality content and syndicate it. Or you can do a combination of both.

Social networking autoposting through services like onlywire is another possibility. Wordpress has some plugins that can achieve a similar effect. AFAIK this approach requires good quality content so that you attract real subscribers

Profile links, and blog posts etc are other ways of getting SERP. They all cost money or time, but will get you up in the rankings.

Automate
02-12-2011, 05:58 AM
Wow! Thanks for the info. It has cleared up a lot of the seo mystery. That firefox extension looks great!

I am ranked fairly well for only doing a few directory submissions, upload google site map, and just a few backlinks. I believe if I do just half of these tips I would rank close to the top.

Right now I have been waiting for my google places submission to be approved. Has been pending for weeks. Hopefully being listed in places will help out as well

dogskool
02-12-2011, 11:00 AM
Yes, researching your competition gives you a strategy to approach your SEO Plan. Good research and submission tools:

A few good tools I used and keep in my toolbox:

Yahoo Site Explorer
https://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/
Great for checking your site and the competition.

Traffic Travis
http://www.traffictravis.com/
Decent free version, easy to use.

Market Samurai
http://www.marketsamurai.com/
Very good, moderate cost very flexible.

Internet Business Promoter
http://www.ibusinesspromoter.com/
Comprehensive program, even in the free version.

ScrapeBox
http://www.scrapebox.com/
Great little program for finding link sites.

SEO Link Dominator
http://www.trafficmystic.com/seo-link-dominator/
Semi-auto posting. Speeds things up.
(Joe produces Link packets that work with SEO Link Doninator:
http://joe118nuggets.com/ )

Pauls Backlinks
http://pjsqualitybacklinks.com/
I already gave you Angela's Backlinks.

XRumer
http://www.botmasterlabs.net/
Grand Daddy of automated link building tools. Expensive but effective.
(spammers love this tool, but it can be used for good backlinking. Use with caution!)

Kim Roach is a great resource for learning the marketing game:
http://www.buzzblogger.com/

Of course, there are a lot more, but these highlights will most definitely get you to the top.

One more thing about keywords. The more complex the keyword, the easier it is to dominate the listings. The more general the stronger the competition.

Good keyword tools:

Google Keyword Tool:
https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal
Designed for Adwords, but good to use for research purposes.

WordTracker
http://www.wordtracker.com/
Comprehensive keyword research site.

dogskool
02-12-2011, 11:51 AM
One more thing, keywords are the most important part of your plan. It does no good to get backlinks until you know what you want to get listed for.

Try to find buyer keywords. In other words, people searching for 'free computer repair' are less likely to spend money as compared to 'expert computer repair services'. Know the buyer mentality and how they search.

Complex keywords have less competition

computer repair
About 104,000,000 results

computer repair services
About 66,600,000 results

expert computer repair services
About 2,640,000 results

Once you have your keywords, then start backlinking and article submitting.

Another good idea is to get into the local search listings:

Get Listed
http://getlisted.org/
Remember to use your buyer keywords in your local profiles.

16k_zx81
02-12-2011, 11:56 AM
I am ranked fairly well ... I believe if I do just half of these tips I would rank close to the top.



I like your website, BTW.

What keywords are you ranking for?

.....................

Automate
02-12-2011, 03:56 PM
Thanks for the compliment. I have a few things I still need to add to it: a photo of me working on a computer, maybe a photo of me with a customer, and a photo of my car with a car advertisement magnet. Slowly but surely getting it all done...lol

Since I am offering local services, the key words I am targeting are computer repair, Pc repair, and laptop repair your town here. These are the keyword combinations that receive the majority of traffic from my google adwords account. I have a hundred or so keywords in that account all targeting specific areas, and these keywords are the ones that lead by large margins.

Last time I checked I was on the 2nd page, 4th page, 1st page, and riding the edge of 1st and second page. The times when I am closer to the first page is when there is less competition in that area.

One more question, has anyone used Odesk to hire someone to do SEO? It's a site where you can outsource specific jobs to people from around the world. I have heard some decent feedback on using them for data entry or virtual assistant work, but have not heard anything about SEO.

BostonGeek1
02-12-2011, 09:34 PM
Yes, researching your competition gives you a strategy to approach your SEO Plan. Good research and submission tools:

A few good tools I used and keep in my toolbox:

Yahoo Site Explorer
https://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/
Great for checking your site and the competition.

Traffic Travis
http://www.traffictravis.com/
Decent free version, easy to use.

Market Samurai
http://www.marketsamurai.com/
Very good, moderate cost very flexible.

Internet Business Promoter
http://www.ibusinesspromoter.com/
Comprehensive program, even in the free version.

ScrapeBox
http://www.scrapebox.com/
Great little program for finding link sites.

SEO Link Dominator
http://www.trafficmystic.com/seo-link-dominator/
Semi-auto posting. Speeds things up.
(Joe produces Link packets that work with SEO Link Doninator:
http://joe118nuggets.com/ )

Pauls Backlinks
http://pjsqualitybacklinks.com/
I already gave you Angela's Backlinks.

XRumer
http://www.botmasterlabs.net/
Grand Daddy of automated link building tools. Expensive but effective.
(spammers love this tool, but it can be used for good backlinking. Use with caution!)

Kim Roach is a great resource for learning the marketing game:
http://www.buzzblogger.com/

Of course, there are a lot more, but these highlights will most definitely get you to the top.

One more thing about keywords. The more complex the keyword, the easier it is to dominate the listings. The more general the stronger the competition.

Good keyword tools:

Google Keyword Tool:
https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal
Designed for Adwords, but good to use for research purposes.

WordTracker
http://www.wordtracker.com/
Comprehensive keyword research site.


I'm sorry but its absolutely HORRIBLE advice to tell people about xrumer and scrapebox...you're going to get people's site banned or penalized.

Edit: You also claim that 'the popular kids' vote counts more than the spammer kids'....EVERY SINGLE tactic you've mentioned is a spammer tactic...Xrumer, Scrapebox, creating garbage articles and submitting them to Web 2.0 properties...etc etc...those are ALL spammer tactics....Not once did you mention something like "create content that makes people want to link to you", or "give away your knowledge on your blog", or "put out a news worthy press release", or "get links from your client sites", or "create profiles on relevant forums and contribute there", or "create USEFUL content and submit to ezinearticles".

You're basically contributing to the 'tactic of the day'.........and helping create another generation of spammers.

BostonGeek1
02-13-2011, 01:05 AM
My goal is mainly to rank higher in the search results. I have found some services that can build links for a reasonable rate. I have been hesitant because seo backlink services all seem to just spam backlinks to your site.

If that is how to get higher ranking without being penalized by google, then I would go for it.

Any opinions on whether backlink services are more bad than good?

Automate

You're correct; all backlink services are spammy ones: 100%....unless you're paying A LOT by the hour.........for someone to go out and find sites for you that are valuable. There's multiple levels to this scam, you probably already know that there are high quality and low quality links; what these sites will promise you is that they will go out and 'magically' get the 'coveted' high quality links. That's simply not true. That's not how it works. To get high quality backlinks you have to have content that is WORTH LINKING TO. Otherwise you're stuck with the spammer techniques or paying a lot of money for press releases and high end directories.........until you can establish yourself as an authority worth linking to.

controlfreak
02-14-2011, 07:40 AM
I think my question is if your keyword is computer repair (your city) how many quality articles can you write about this subject? Would you write about all thing computers like how to tell when your computer is overheating , and computers buyer guide and link back to your website. Are these backlink worth it since they focus on a variety of keywords not your main?

16k_zx81
02-14-2011, 08:09 AM
I think my question is if your keyword is computer repair (your city) how many quality articles can you write about this subject? Would you write about all thing computers like how to tell when your computer is overheating , and computers buyer guide and link back to your website. Are these backlink worth it since they focus on a variety of keywords not your main?


Thats the killer question for our industry in terms of SEO. How do you create quality content that will get links and subscribers without giving away trade secrets?

You have hit the nail right on the head. Ive been pondering this for some time and dont have an answer. Anyone care to comment?

dogskool
02-14-2011, 03:37 PM
Thank you for flagging a few points I omitted, but I still stand by the proper use of powerful tools.
I'm sorry but its absolutely HORRIBLE advice to tell people about xrumer and scrapebox...
All tools can be used for good or bad intentions. Just because a tool CAN be used for spamming, doesn't mean that is the only way to use it. Email is prove of that, it a good tool, but it can be mis-used as well. xrumer and scrapebox speed up the process of finding linking prospects. SEO takes a lot of time, anyone who tries to do it can tell you. If there is a way to speed up any process, why not use it?

Why use a hand saw to cut through a board, when a power saw gets the job done faster? Sure it's easier to hurt yourself on a power saw, this is where it takes skill on how to use the tool.

Just because a locksmith has lock picking tools, doesn't mean he is a thief. It is simply a tool of the trade. xrumer and scrapebox are tools of the SEO trade.

You also claim that 'the popular kids' vote counts more than the spammer kids'....
It is true, but even the spammer links work:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/business/13search.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

Using quality backlinks means you need less of them.
Using poor quality means you need more of them. JC Penny proved that.

I recommended using quality prospects.

EVERY SINGLE tactic you've mentioned is a spammer tactic...Xrumer, Scrapebox,
I simply mentioned tools that are very effective for finding backlink potential and increasing your sites ranking in the search engines. I believe it is important to post only to related sites and NOT to spam any properties.

...creating garbage articles...
Not once did I mention creating garbage articles.

and submitting them to Web 2.0 properties..
I most certainly meant submitting quality articles to these properties.

Not once did you mention something like "create content that makes people want to link to you", or "give away your knowledge on your blog", or "put out a news worthy press release", or "get links from your client sites", or "create profiles on relevant forums and contribute there", or "create USEFUL content and submit to ezinearticles".
I did omit that in this post, but THAT is what I meant, thank you for making a point of that. It is very important to create quality articles, that is why is is time consuming to article submit.

I did imply using quality content in a previous post...
...Article backlinking is hard, since the effort to write good non-spammie articles and post them to all the sites takes a lot of time and wouldn't it be better to have your content in your own blog/site?

If you decide to go the article backlinkink...
There are easier ways to rank in the search engines, but while article submissions are more tedious, but done properly, they do work.

You're basically contributing to the 'tactic of the day'.........and helping create another generation of spammers.
Thank you for pointing out that I failed to mention my tool list with a disclaimer, I thought that NOT spamming was implied.

Disclaimer: Spamming will get your site penalized, it may take time for the search engines to find you, but they will. As with any tools you use in your business to accomplish a goal, learn to use the tool properly.