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xxsilk109xx
12-06-2010, 07:30 PM
I have a customer who is asking me to build them a system that is used for a specific thing. This computer will only be used for running CAD type programs. One program is called Solidworks, the other is called Catia.

I understand that some graphics cards are for gaming and others are made for programs like these.

Recommended is 6GB ram, 64 bit OS (win7). Cpu must support SSE2 (Streaming SIMD Extensions 2)

I wonder if anyone has any experience with programs like this if they could give me some pointers on what parts to get. I really need some help on the graphics side of it.

I am thinking quad core amd black edition chip, 6 gb ddr3 ram, etc.

Thanks!

muncherw
12-06-2010, 07:40 PM
My experience with CAD programs are that a good graphics card is nice but RAM is really what you need to make it run smoothy. A lot of CAD drawings aren't terribly complex so you don't need to worry about crazy FPS and shadowing and all that; however they can be very, very big files chock full of information for which RAM is vital.
I'm only (vaguely) familiar with GIS mapping programs though to maybe the programs you are talking about are way different. But I suspect if they are more or less CAD programs then when I said should apply.

Martyn
12-06-2010, 07:41 PM
I've been involved in both of these programs but only from a printing aspect. I would check the particular versions they are using of each programs and the hardware specs required. A lot of the car industry in the uk use Catia and some used to be the Unix version, but that is all i know. All my job was to get them plotting to cad plotters so I wasn't involved in all the rendering etc.

Cadishead Computers
12-06-2010, 07:42 PM
Have a look here.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/hc?siteID=123112&id=6711853&linkID=9240618&is_results=1&card_sel=0&manufac=4098&card=0&cert=0&d_stat=1&d_stat=2&prod=AutoCAD-R17.2&prod=AutoCAD-R18.0&prod=AutoCAD-R18.1&os=4096&os=8192

gives you a quick heads up as to which card(s), will work ok.

Vicenarian
12-06-2010, 09:20 PM
Also, running a SSD might be beneficial, if cost isn't much of an issue. You could see big performance gains, I think.

iisjman07
12-06-2010, 09:43 PM
My experience with CAD programs are that a good graphics card is nice but RAM is really what you need to make it run smoothy.

I agree with this; you need a semi-descent card but nothing over the top (it's CAD not Crysis). 6GB of ram seems like a good amount to me

seedubya
12-06-2010, 10:21 PM
Beg to differ with y'all - but the gfx card is EXTREMELY important for both Solidworks and Catia. These are 3D solid modelling programs not Autocad. You need to go Nvidia Quadro - check out the individual program websites for specifics.
http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/videocardtesting.html
http://www.3ds.com/support/certified-hardware/overview/

red12049
12-07-2010, 01:46 AM
Beg to differ with y'all - but the gfx card is EXTREMELY important for both Solidworks and Catia. These are 3D solid modelling programs not Autocad. You need to go Nvidia Quadro - check out the individual program websites for specifics.
http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/videocardtesting.html
http://www.3ds.com/support/certified-hardware/overview/

Thank you. Was about to tell the OP that if the client ever had to call for support and was not using the recommended graphics card, they essentially would tell him to kiss off. Workstation graphics cards are a whole different ball of wax from everyday stuff, or even gaming stuff.

BTW, better check the software recommendations for motherboards as well, same probably applies.

I know I'll get flamed for saying this, but opinions are not the same as knowledge.

Rick

16k_zx81
12-07-2010, 07:52 AM
I have a customer who is asking me to build them a system that is used for a specific thing. This computer will only be used for running CAD type programs. One program is called Solidworks, the other is called Catia.

I understand that some graphics cards are for gaming and others are made for programs like these.

Recommended is 6GB ram, 64 bit OS (win7). Cpu must support SSE2 (Streaming SIMD Extensions 2)

I wonder if anyone has any experience with programs like this if they could give me some pointers on what parts to get. I really need some help on the graphics side of it.

I am thinking quad core amd black edition chip, 6 gb ddr3 ram, etc.

Thanks!


Quad or Hex core, 8GB with 2 free slots for future ram upgrades, sata3, usb3, (SSD?) primary drive, backup drive, and an nVidia Quadro for the GPU (which end of the range is up to your client's budget)