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normbarb
09-27-2010, 12:31 PM
What do you recommend to your customers for malware protection. I usually recommend Malwarebytes, but I am wondering about Microsoft Security Essentials. Is there any harm in running both. Looking for thoughts and ideas.

Norm

Martyn
09-27-2010, 12:34 PM
I recommend them both. The free version of Malwarebytes has to be run manually so there is no clash.

normbarb
09-27-2010, 12:42 PM
Any thoughts on OpenDNS.com? I believe it will block known infected websites.

TLE
09-27-2010, 12:47 PM
What do you recommend to your customers for malware protection. I usually recommend Malwarebytes, but I am wondering about Microsoft Security Essentials. Is there any harm in running both. Looking for thoughts and ideas.
Norm

Is Malwarebytes classed as a full AV product which can be used soley on a PC. I was always under the impression that it was just an additional layer of protection which can be used in addition to the installed primary AV solution.

MobileTechie
09-27-2010, 01:00 PM
There are quite a few recent discussions about the efficacy of MSE and other AV apps. It's worth doing a search as the threads link to external test labs and the like.

normbarb
09-27-2010, 01:04 PM
I was referring to anti-malware( MBAM, etc.) as an addition to a convenional AV such as Norton, McAfee, etc.
Norm

normbarb
09-27-2010, 01:06 PM
There are quite a few recent discussions about the efficacy of MSE and other AV apps. It's worth doing a search as the threads link to external test labs and the like.

Will give it a shot! Thanks

ubuzz
09-27-2010, 01:08 PM
Is Malwarebytes classed as a full AV product which can be used soley on a PC. I was always under the impression that it was just an additional layer of protection which can be used in addition to the installed primary AV solution.

That's my impression as well ... that you would use in addition to an AV product.

Martyn
09-27-2010, 01:13 PM
That's my impression as well ... that you would use in addition to an AV product.

Yes that's why I use MSE and MWB for manual scanning periodically.

ljtechservices
09-27-2010, 01:31 PM
Any thoughts on OpenDNS.com? I believe it will block known infected websites.

I recommend opendns as part of solution for keeping the bugs off the system.

opendns as you describe for filtering out the bad sites & content filtering.
A good AV software
a browser that accepts plugins that block advertisements & scripting.
a periodic sweep with SAS or MBAM or whatever your choice is.

All this can work to prevent accidental infections but there's no technological substitute for people thinking before they click on things or entering personal info on websites that they aren't sure of.

lgtechcomputers
09-27-2010, 01:39 PM
The machines in my business and at home have not had an AV for at least 12 months and have never caught an infection. (3 Machines total).

I use OpenDNS, MBAM like once every two weeks with a manual scan and also SpywareBlaster. I do also make sure to run Secunia PSI and Windows updates every "update tuesday" to make sure I don't have software that could be updated with a more secure version.

OpenDNS settings is at "Moderate".

To answer the OP - I think MBAM is another layer of security for workstations.

normbarb
09-27-2010, 02:10 PM
There are quite a few recent discussions about the efficacy of MSE and other AV apps. It's worth doing a search as the threads link to external test labs and the like.

Good stuff. Thanks

I was surprised that Norton 2010 came out among the top AVs. In our area, it is free for Comcast subscribers. Customers are still getting infections.

Norm

normbarb
09-27-2010, 02:15 PM
The machines in my business and at home have not had an AV for at least 12 months and have never caught an infection. (3 Machines total).

I use OpenDNS, MBAM like once every two weeks with a manual scan and also SpywareBlaster. I do also make sure to run Secunia PSI and Windows updates every "update tuesday" to make sure I don't have software that could be updated with a more secure version.

OpenDNS settings is at "Moderate".

To answer the OP - I think MBAM is another layer of security for workstations.

Just changed my OpenDNS settings to Moderate. Thanks

MobileTechie
09-27-2010, 03:30 PM
Good stuff. Thanks

I was surprised that Norton 2010 came out among the top AVs. In our area, it is free for Comcast subscribers. Customers are still getting infections.

Norm

I think that is probably because of 2 reasons: firstly Norton sells a hell of a lot of AVs. Since no AV is 100% effective you're bound to see more Nortons and McAfees infected that anything else. Secondly the way the labs test AVs is somewhat artificial and appears to be based mostly on tons of known viruses. Thus some of the tests can become a who has the largest signature database competition.

ATTech
09-27-2010, 07:59 PM
Customers are still getting infections.

Anti-malware software is just a continually upgraded door lock. It's not going to block the people who have the newest lock picking techniques, nor is it going to stop an intruder if you open the door form them.

Cybjun
09-27-2010, 10:35 PM
Currently I run in my shop and at my home, MBAM & AVG Anti-Virus, Both paid versions, Loaded windows updates, and using OpenDNS with an account (free) set to custom or moderate. Making sure windows updates are going through like they should and limeware and any other P2P programs are not on the machine.

and the biggest thing you can do is educate your customer on not clicking on every single thing without at least reading it first & to be familiar with what the anti-virus & anti-malware programs look like so they can recognize the fakes

Inquixative
09-27-2010, 11:08 PM
I do a lot of virus removal testing. I can remember Security Essentials removing a newer virus that MB, Spybot S&D, Superantispyware, TDSS Killer, and others failed to remove. Customers appreciate free. I think MB and SE is a great choice for customers.

normbarb
09-28-2010, 11:37 AM
There are quite a few recent discussions about the efficacy of MSE and other AV apps. It's worth doing a search as the threads link to external test labs and the like.

These are in forums where I do not have permission to post, so I don't go there.:mad:

Cadishead Computers
09-28-2010, 11:46 AM
These are in forums where I do not have permission to post, so I don't go there.:mad:

You will be able to soon. How long have you been a member of tn?, as there are time limits, as well as post counts for certain parts of the forum.

normbarb
09-28-2010, 12:20 PM
You will be able to soon. How long have you been a member of tn?, as there are time limits, as well as post counts for certain parts of the forum.

According to the member list, I joined on 23 Sept. I have 30+ posts.

Thanks, Norm