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nj_computer_repair
05-28-2010, 06:56 PM
Does anyone know where to find a 5 point screwdriver for 2010 MBP battery removal? The older unibodys used tri-wing screws but this 2010 that just came in does not have the tri-wing configuration. It really looks like a torx but none of my torx drivers fit. After further inspection, there are only 5 sides. I got the screws out with a little creativity but for the future, I would like the correct tool.

Apple is playing tricks on me!

NYJimbo
05-28-2010, 07:07 PM
You have to look for something like a "five-pointed star", "tamper Resistant star bit set", "star driver set", "five-pointer" or as it's known in the Goth PC repair realm: "His Unholy Darkness Pentagram Driver Tool" :D

But seriously, the 5 pointer is available but its the size that matters.

dracken
05-28-2010, 07:14 PM
http://www.pbparts.com/shop.php/9229101

NYJimbo
05-28-2010, 07:18 PM
http://www.pbparts.com/shop.php/9229101

Hmmm....TORX = 6 point star. Do you own this set?. Just want to be sure its really 5-point.

PS- Nevermind. I see this site is focused on MAC stuff, so its got to be 5-point.

dracken
05-28-2010, 07:36 PM
Yes I did buy this one a while back. This one does work to remove the battery screws. It is torx 6 size but 5 points.

PcTek9
05-28-2010, 08:43 PM
This place called harborfreight.com has tons of tools for all kinds of things.

This security bit set for $7.99 is a steal. The bits are good steel, I bought this, and the bits have not broken, twisted, or even had the points marred up yet. I use it for gunsmithing and the occasional security console entry. Anyway. I was thought it might be so cheap as to be worthless, but this is one of those rare products that is made well at low cost.

http://www.harborfreight.com/100-piece-security-bit-set-91310.html

I know this is not Snap On, Blue Point, Mac, Bonny, Sioux, Proto, Westward, Craftsman, or Gray. But I use them all the time, and never broke a bit yet.

Further more, I never could find a 100 bit security set made by the big guys.

Look at the bright side if you ever do break one, it was $7.99 for the whole kit. Quite frankly I have broken tools made by the big guys, so to me it's silly to argue the whole "it's to cheap for me to use" vector.

* on good tools, everybody puts special hardeners in their steel, chrome is used to make the steel hard. To much, and it's brittle, to little and it's soft. So either way you look at it, any steel manufacturer can have a good or bad batch of tools. Although brand names do have generally better quality control, technology in the steel industry regarding technique and production manufacturing are ever increasingly shared across the board through industry medium.

dracken
05-28-2010, 08:48 PM
This place called harborfreight.com has tons of tools for all kinds of things.

This security bit set for $7.99 is a steal. The bits are good steel, I bought this, and the bits have not broken, twisted, or even had the points marred up yet. I use it for gunsmithing and the occasional security console entry. Anyway. I was thought it might be so cheap as to be worthless, but this is one of those rare products that is made well at low cost.

http://www.harborfreight.com/100-piece-security-bit-set-91310.html

I know this is not Snap On, Blue Point, Mac, Bonny, Sioux, Proto, Westward, Craftsman, or Gray. But I use them all the time, and never broke a bit yet.

Further more, I never could find a 100 bit security set made by the big guys.

Yeah unfortunately a standard security set does not have the right size bit for this.

nj_computer_repair
05-28-2010, 08:55 PM
it's known in the Goth PC repair realm: "His Unholy Darkness Pentagram Driver Tool"

I looked for his unholy tool but apparently he doesn't want me to find it lol

I also see a few 5 pointers but didn't want to start ordering random drivers that will not fit.

Yes I did buy this one a while back. This one does work to remove the battery screws. It is torx 6 size but 5 points.

Thanks dracken, I will have to get this one.

anonymous Mac Tech
05-29-2010, 01:05 AM
I had to buy 3 of them from Apple at $25 a pop when the unibody MBPs came out. Its nice to see a 3rd party is supplying them now. You can get a torx T6 to work in a pinch but it scratches off the black paint on the screws.

dracken
05-29-2010, 01:33 AM
I had to buy 3 of them from Apple at $25 a pop when the unibody MBPs came out. Its nice to see a 3rd party is supplying them now. You can get a torx T6 to work in a pinch but it scratches off the black paint on the screws.

We bought one at the Apple price as well before finding these. I just hope Apple doesn't switch to a different type again, gets expensive to buy specialty tools.

anonymous Mac Tech
05-29-2010, 04:53 AM
We bought one at the Apple price as well before finding these. I just hope Apple doesn't switch to a different type again, gets expensive to buy specialty tools.

Yeah, tell me about it. Did you see the price for the "fixture" Apple is selling for removing the/replacing the heatsink on an 09 and later Macbook Pro logic board to keep the board from flexing? It was $150 bucks. I didn't think it was necessary, but we try to play by Apples rules for warranty work.

Before that was the "wedge" for removing displays on unibody machines. That is basically a $50 or $60 Styrofoam triangle.

Next is the diags that they want us to use requiring server hardware and a copy of 10.6 server. You'd think they would help pay for the equipment to run all this stuff or at least quit cutting the labor rates for warranty repairs?

NeutronTech
05-29-2010, 05:10 AM
You'd think they would help pay for the equipment to run all this stuff or at least quit cutting the labor rates for warranty repairs?

There's no incentive to. Just like any other industry; for every person who says "screw it", 5 more are willing to take their place. People just can't seem to join collectively and stand up for something. So we're just going to keep getting screwed until there's no room for anymore holes.

anonymous Mac Tech
05-29-2010, 03:50 PM
There's no incentive to. Just like any other industry; for every person who says "screw it", 5 more are willing to take their place. People just can't seem to join collectively and stand up for something. So we're just going to keep getting screwed until there's no room for anymore holes.

Well we stand up to them as much as they try to screw us, especially on on-site repairs. But in Apples case for any independently owned shop that decides its not worth it, Apple is happy to throw up a corporate store to handle the business. Although we have freedom to do and sell things that Apple corporate places don't, there is so much restrictions we have to deal with from Apple that I'm sure their corporate stores don't have to think about. Like the one part per machine every 30 days. When we are repairing a machine, Apple thinks it's impossible for more than one part to need replaced at a time. On the other hand, I've seen cases where Apple corporate has the freedom to throw parts at something until its fixed. Makes me wonder where it's all going? Just like Apple likes to keep consumers in the dark, they do the same if not more so in regards to their service providers.

dracken
05-29-2010, 06:20 PM
Yeah, tell me about it. Did you see the price for the "fixture" Apple is selling for removing the/replacing the heatsink on an 09 and later Macbook Pro logic board to keep the board from flexing? It was $150 bucks. I didn't think it was necessary, but we try to play by Apples rules for warranty work.

Before that was the "wedge" for removing displays on unibody machines. That is basically a $50 or $60 Styrofoam triangle.

Next is the diags that they want us to use requiring server hardware and a copy of 10.6 server. You'd think they would help pay for the equipment to run all this stuff or at least quit cutting the labor rates for warranty repairs?

We have been pushing for a server for a while for our department now with the Apple Service Toolkit we might get one of the $1000 mac mini loaded with OS X server. Yeah the wedges, barcode scanner for parts return, AASP fee and recertification tests all add up. We do warranty service for other manufacturers as well and they don't require any of the same kind of things apple does.

anonymous Mac Tech
05-29-2010, 08:34 PM
We have been pushing for a server for a while for our department now with the Apple Service Toolkit we might get one of the $1000 mac mini loaded with OS X server. Yeah the wedges, barcode scanner for parts return, AASP fee and recertification tests all add up. We do warranty service for other manufacturers as well and they don't require any of the same kind of things apple does.

That Mini should work out well. I'd been wanting to get one for myself but don't have the extra scratch floating around to invest in one. We have an older G5 tower running 10.5 server in the shop we are using for back-ups and a bunch of other servers older than that running some internal data bases, proxy servers, email server, etc..But of course Apple would make everyone need an Intel server to run these diags on. I wonder if Apple wasn't seeing the numbers sales wise they were hoping on the mini server and possibly did this just to boost the sales of them.

purple_minion
05-29-2010, 10:51 PM
Wow, makes me love Apple more and more every day!

I think those security bit sets would make great gifts, maybe even for fathers day! ;) At $8 you can't go wrong.

My only story was grinding down a torx bit to fit into the xbox 360 controller, the shoulder was just a hair too wide to reach the deepest one. Did get it apart and fixed the bumper buttons... don't let your neighbor throw their controller in anger. ;)

JRDtechnet
05-30-2010, 12:31 AM
I bought the same exact tool set PcTek9 bought, I also purchased this set about a month ago. It actually has 2 small 5-point bits in it but I never had to use them yet and I'm unsure if any are the correct size for the Apple. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002RBLAJA/ref=oss_product

PcTek9
05-30-2010, 03:53 AM
Yeah unfortunately a standard security set does not have the right size bit for this.

You are absolutely right... I never noticed that before.

Sorry guys, I was wrong.

I checked my 100 piece bit set, and they are all 6 pointers, no 5's ...